Review: Firestorm Ignition Coil Booster

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Kajang to Seremban not far la.....I even went all the way to Kepong, Publika, Shah Alam, Malacca few times for TT also have....it's not the journey that matters is the people that you can meet at TT and the new friendship you can make....that's is worth it.

I also forgot about the test also because was indulge with sharing info and chatting with the attendees.
ha! ha! Yah! At Publika TT, I was a bit shock when you mentioned you came from Seremban.

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Thanks Peter but I'm a bit hesitant to try since this unit will no longer be sell-able after I install it. Would wrapping it up in plastic and foam preserve the unit? Also I need more than 1 month to test the thing. My test will need to include before and after dyno comparisons and I try to go on days that have similar weather so I don't get too much differences in dyno readings due to atmospheric differences. Also, I take an average over 3-4 full tanks and one tank takes about 2 weeks to complete for me. So I'll need at least 3 months to finish a proper test.

Perhaps you could PM me the price of this device then I can consider whether or not to purchase it then do my own testing. Obviously if the price is too high (I'm a DIY-er. Scrooge is my middle name) then I won't be able to agree to purchasing the unit.
No need to buy. Since Peter mention your Wira to be installed in engine bay fuse box should be same as my Mitsu based Hyundai (I actually have a unit too) ha! ha!:biggrin:
That was why i ask what type on connection earlier. Cvkit one on the Myvi have smaller fuse connection. Lets see which ones fits your car....
To me I got no butt feel after I drive my VR the other two ride is nothing....hahahahaha:biggrin:
Actually my VR have same connection, and I did transfer the unit to the VR but somehow it seems to draw current therefore I have to turn the key longer for the car to crank..:banghead:
Took out and put back to the Hyundai...:smokin:
 

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Thanks for your concern and understanding, Izso. 3-4 months will be a long time indeed. Perhaps it will be in time for a Christmas surprise. Haha.

The dyno will reveal an immediate results of some gains in hp and torque.

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It isn't advertising. Just a sincere offer of FOC testing for any ZTH members in Penang who may want to test the FireStorm.

The problem at ZTH is that there are too many professors who spout theory without knowing what they are talking about. Hence my offer for FOC testing so that these people can know what the FireStorm can do and put any speculation to rest.

I am not making any sales offer here.

Thank you.
 

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It isn't advertising. Just a sincere offer of FOC testing for any ZTH members in Penang who may want to test the FireStorm.

The problem at ZTH is that there are too many professors who spout theory without knowing what they are talking about. Hence my offer for FOC testing so that these people can know what the FireStorm can do and put any speculation to rest.

I am not making any sales offer here.

Thank you.
Test as in just plug and drive a few rounds or a deeper test like what we would like to do?
 

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The moment the FireStorm is plugged in, you will feel the difference in acceleration power. This is to prove that the FireStorm immediately works. This is also to dispel the skepticism that shrouds the ZTH community.

Unlike other products which claim that it would take a few days or a week before you can feel the difference. By that time the seller would tell you grandfather stories if you ask for a refund on grounds that it doesn't work.
 

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Has it been well proven on Toyota 4GR-FSE direct injection engine? (Used in Toyota Mark X 250G and Lexus IS250).
 

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I am curious guys. Why don't you all spend the $$$ on tuning instead?

I am not skeptical about the performance of these devices, I am skeptical about the reliability. What happens if it fails? Will it fry my coil? Will it stall my engine while I am driving?

Cause all the ignition boosters increase the voltage to your coil and hence increase spark power. but what will happen to your coil in the long run? Also, advancing ignition timing produces the same effect as well. Why not advance ignition instead?
 

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The moment the FireStorm is plugged in, you will feel the difference in acceleration power. This is to prove that the FireStorm immediately works. This is also to dispel the skepticism that shrouds the ZTH community.

Unlike other products which claim that it would take a few days or a week before you can feel the difference. By that time the seller would tell you grandfather stories if you ask for a refund on grounds that it doesn't work.
Don't have to write so long lol...just reply "yes, it will a plug in and then let you drive a few rounds kind of test"

Simple and easy to understand.
Also, we want to test it out for a longer duration of time is because we want to know the exact benefits it gives e.g. Like my test or a dyno, with facts and figures. Butt dyno would not reveal any mathematical figures so its really up to each individuals. If the seller tells grandfather stories when eventually the device doesn't work, then it is even simpler. The seller is a con dude that's it. Agree?
 

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I am curious guys. Why don't you all spend the $$$ on tuning instead?

I am not skeptical about the performance of these devices, I am skeptical about the reliability. What happens if it fails? Will it fry my coil? Will it stall my engine while I am driving?

Cause all the ignition boosters increase the voltage to your coil and hence increase spark power. but what will happen to your coil in the long run? Also, advancing ignition timing produces the same effect as well. Why not advance ignition instead?
Advancing ignition timing doesn't enhance the spark quality la. But you have a point on the coil. That was one of the things I was hoping to try as well. I'm ok sacrificing my coil for the sake of a test.

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Wira mah. Cheap parts.
 

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Advancing ignition timing doesn't enhance the spark quality la. But you have a point on the coil. That was one of the things I was hoping to try as well. I'm ok sacrificing my coil for the sake of a test.

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Wira mah. Cheap parts.
i can spare u a few coil if u need any bro :listen:
seriously something touching the fuse box i don't dare to try, saw alot car burned nowadays :smokin:
 

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Just read thru the last 5 pages and it seems to me that peterlm likes using words such as wager, bet, smart but not totally, talking down other dealers whatnot.

Let's just put an end to all speculation. I'll donate my Inspira with stock ECU for the dyno testing. Izso, don't need to go dyno on days with similar atmospheric content. Just dyno my car before and after plugging in the FS. My ECU doesn't need time to adapt to new stuff, just reset the battery connection will do. Simple, effective and easy.
 

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Has it been well proven on Toyota 4GR-FSE direct injection engine? (Used in Toyota Mark X 250G and Lexus IS250).
We have installed in both the Mark X and ES350 and the owners are happy with the new found power.

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Advancing ignition timing doesn't enhance the spark quality la. But you have a point on the coil. That was one of the things I was hoping to try as well. I'm ok sacrificing my coil for the sake of a test.

:biggrin:

Wira mah. Cheap parts.
I personally sold this FireStorm for almost 2 years while it had been sold to some local users for 1.5 years before that while test bed users had tested another 2.5 years during the R&D period. No one had complained of burned out ignition coils until now.

If the effects of the FireStorm is so great then it might have burned out the coil even within a few months!

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i can spare u a few coil if u need any bro :listen:
seriously something touching the fuse box i don't dare to try, saw alot car burned nowadays :smokin:
The FireStorm wire is thin and is installed in the fuse supplying power to the ignition coil. This fuse will get power only if the ignition key is turned on or when the engine is running. If there is a short circuit then the fuse on the FireStorm unit will blow.

Do any of you guys install Voltage Stabilizers in your car? Did you notice how fat is the cable from the Voltage Stabilizer that connects to your car battery? Now, if this fat cable were to be shorted then you would indeed kiss your car goodbye. Furthermore the VS is always connected directly to the car battery. What if a rat crawls in and bites the VS positive cable which then arcs onto the chassis of the car?

There are many possibilities for a fire in the engine bay but that the FireStorm to cause a fire would be very remote.

Do you guys install Voltage Stabilizers in your car? Be more careful as the possibility of your car burning down is so much higher.

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Just read thru the last 5 pages and it seems to me that peterlm likes using words such as wager, bet, smart but not totally, talking down other dealers whatnot.

Let's just put an end to all speculation. I'll donate my Inspira with stock ECU for the dyno testing. Izso, don't need to go dyno on days with similar atmospheric content. Just dyno my car before and after plugging in the FS. My ECU doesn't need time to adapt to new stuff, just reset the battery connection will do. Simple, effective and easy.
That was what I said. Dyno will give immediate results. Fuel saving tests are subjective and dependent on the driver and roads tested. Unless of course if you have a test track at your disposal.

I dont usually do as what you say I do because in Lowyat those guys are open to prove the effectiveness of products by themselves whilst in ZTH the forumners here are more "learned" hence my different approach.

I learn about new things without condemning nor put my biased opinion if I do not know how the product functions. I do not talk about nor advocate dissecting a device to see what is inside but I use my knowledge and experience and research to find out the theory of how the device works.

To me it does not matter how the device is constructed because the end result is what I am after. I can create another circuit to get the same end result which is what matters. Reverse engineering someone's product is merely copying the design which may get us into legal issues if the product is patented.

I do agree that Izso's methodology of testing is very good but is rather lengthy and if its just improvement figires then a dyro run will prove it.
 

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Bought my firestorm from Peter last year august and been using it ever-since. Its been more than a year and I believed if it's going to fry the coil nor melt the spark plug, it should happen within a few weeks or months but it's still all good so far.
 

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Just read thru the last 5 pages and it seems to me that peterlm likes using words such as wager, bet, smart but not totally, talking down other dealers whatnot.

Let's just put an end to all speculation. I'll donate my Inspira with stock ECU for the dyno testing. Izso, don't need to go dyno on days with similar atmospheric content. Just dyno my car before and after plugging in the FS. My ECU doesn't need time to adapt to new stuff, just reset the battery connection will do. Simple, effective and easy.
Bro, we are not talking about the effectiveness here. I think we do not doubt the effectiveness because things that enhances the spark will give power gains. No questions about that. Straight forward. But we are talking about reliability of the coils, which is a long term test. It's not about dyno. It's how long can the coil stand before burning off.


I personally sold this FireStorm for almost 2 years while it had been sold to some local users for 1.5 years before that while test bed users had tested another 2.5 years during the R&D period. No one had complained of burned out ignition coils until now.

If the effects of the FireStorm is so great then it might have burned out the coil even within a few months!


Peterlm... This got to be a long term test. Nothing great about your customers using the thing for 2 - 2.5 years and their coils are still okay. Coils are built to last very long. My 15 year old toyota, i've just changed the coil one. I had a 10 year old wira last time and the coil is still strong. You can't use your 2 - 2.5 years without problems to advocate this product. It can be that there are no problems so far at this time of writing (2.5 years), but maybe give it a few more weeks, say 2.8 years and then the problem comes one by one. Or maybe after 5 years? I just said maybe. Who knows?

Now I believe Izso, TR and some people are thinking of an experimental design for this, so let's just wait. I appreciate their effort in wanting to test this.
 

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Bro, we are not talking about the effectiveness here. I think we do not doubt the effectiveness because things that enhances the spark will give power gains. No questions about that. Straight forward. But we are talking about reliability of the coils, which is a long term test. It's not about dyno. It's how long can the coil stand before burning off.




Peterlm... This got to be a long term test. Nothing great about your customers using the thing for 2 - 2.5 years and their coils are still okay. Coils are built to last very long. My 15 year old toyota, i've just changed the coil one. I had a 10 year old wira last time and the coil is still strong. You can't use your 2 - 2.5 years without problems to advocate this product. It can be that there are no problems so far at this time of writing (2.5 years), but maybe give it a few more weeks, say 2.8 years and then the problem comes one by one. Or maybe after 5 years? I just said maybe. Who knows?

Now I believe Izso, TR and some people are thinking of an experimental design for this, so let's just wait. I appreciate their effort in wanting to test this.


Now I am really lost by your reply. Having customers who have been using the device for over 2-3 years without the FireStorm or the ignition coil failure compared against Izso's proposed 3-4 months testing is mind boggling. Unless Izso can come up with a 10-20 year accelerated life test?

With that sort of outlook on the worry of the failures, I guess you would probably not buy a car model until after 10-15 years that it had been on the roads without any parts or component failures???

My reply is based on your outlook of things as I can decipher from your reply above.

Now I am really lost for words.
 

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Now I am really lost by your reply. Having customers who have been using the device for over 2-3 years without the FireStorm or the ignition coil failure compared against Izso's proposed 3-4 months testing is mind boggling. Unless Izso can come up with a 10-20 year accelerated life test?

With that sort of outlook on the worry of the failures, I guess you would probably not buy a car model until after 10-15 years that it had been on the roads without any parts or component failures???

My reply is based on your outlook of things as I can decipher from your reply above.

Now I am really lost for words.
Actually I understand what you are trying to say.
But your choice of words misled the others.
So fellow ZTHers, if cannot lend a unit to test so be it lah.
Before we weren't using one, and we will still be good without one.
 

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I cant change the way you guys in ZTH think and I am not about to either. At least you guys here have a good handle of English. I can give you this much.

Thanks for opening my eyes.

Cheers.
 

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Advancing ignition timing doesn't enhance the spark quality la. But you have a point on the coil. That was one of the things I was hoping to try as well. I'm ok sacrificing my coil for the sake of a test.

:biggrin:

Wira mah. Cheap parts.
But a stronger spark does not necessary mean more power right? There CDI devices in the market that does the same thing and its designed for racing applications. So, I would feel those devices are more reliable esp. when coupled with a CDI coil.

Btw, why not get a more powerful ignition coil instead? Eg for MSD or Mallory, Crane etc. I would think its better than adding such devices.
 

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But a stronger spark does not necessary mean more power right? There CDI devices in the market that does the same thing and its designed for racing applications. So, I would feel those devices are more reliable esp. when coupled with a CDI coil.

Btw, why not get a more powerful ignition coil instead? Eg for MSD or Mallory, Crane etc. I would think its better than adding such devices.
What he meant was making the spark more smooth.
 

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We have installed in both the Mark X and ES350 and the owners are happy with the new found power.

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Do you guys install Voltage Stabilizers in your car? Be more careful as the possibility of your car burning down is so much higher.

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Hmm ok, and I assume it's also plug & play for the Mark X, is it?

No, I also never believe in those VS gimmick, would rather spend the money for really proven useful stuff.
 

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I cant change the way you guys in ZTH think and I am not about to either. At least you guys here have a good handle of English. I can give you this much.

Thanks for opening my eyes.

Cheers.
Well well now I think I know why firestorm can't penetrate ZTH market much.

I don't know la...if you are unable to volunteer a unit for testing it is completely fine. We are requesting, not ordering. Request declined so what we accept it and will not whine coz we will move on and find other ways. Just....reply in a single word or sentence without being sarcastic or condemning other products or sellers. Be a professional and honest seller.

I don't know la...we want to have a thorough test on what the FS can do, apart already having in mind that FS works. But you only kept on saying FS works FS works no problem no problem merry go round round round. Ya it works!! So what?? You think ZTH people would spend few hundred bucks just to have a 2% increase in horsepower?

I don't know la...it is good that no one complaint before that the FS fries the coil or any other electronics so far. Even though that does not mean it won't shorten the coil life cycle...

I don't know la...with sooooo many years of R&D (it's written there japanese technology, I don't know whether the R&D done to market the product here is "Research and Development" or "Redo and Duplicate") and soooo many years of testing the product, there isn't any company name or location. Might or might not be a registered company.

I don't know la...why you wana compare this to Voltage Stabilizer. Two totally different thing...voltage stabilizer does not give bigger spark. It gives consistent voltage to the electron suckers in the car laaa..

I don't know la...why you wana bet this bet that bet bet bet bet..

I don't know la...why other sellers are not coming into this thread since they know the existence of it. The more the merrier.. One drop of vinegar will spoil the whole cow! Ops sorry. It's milk.

I don't know laaa...why I typed so much on Malaysia Day...feeling hopeless towards Malaysia I guess...I don't know la...I don't know laaa...:rofl:
 

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probably it work on those completely stock car? i mean nothing added, except VS + FS.

i did added into mine, weird issue are;

1. the engine suddenly almost die off when stop at traffic light "all the meter signal is on, just like you turned your key to "on"" (this only happen one time, and no more happen)

2. keep low speed <20kmj while pressing fuel steadily, my car move forward n slow again. (i dont know explain, but it is like you purposely press more fuel, then release and press fuel again)

3. like no power/lost power whenever i stop at traffic light, and press fuel to move, it delay 1 sec before engine rev.

4. engine vibrate and shaking (like want to die off the engine) which can feel inside d car (even my gf can feel it)

unplugged FS, all weird issue listed above disappear.

noticable FS effect:

1. more revvy.. more torque? butt does not feel it, except more easy to rev in D
2. muffler tone more deep

probably it work for other car, but it just weird and not "working" properly in my car. :p i only added 4-2-1, changed muffler, erased check engine code, evolve 2013 vs, and 5 grounding cable. that all i could remember, the rest is not engine parts.

maybe i need to drive more before ecu adapt yea? :x
 
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probably it work on those completely stock car? i mean nothing added, except VS + FS.

i did added into mine, weird issue are;

1. the engine suddenly almost die off when stop at traffic light "all the meter signal is on, just like you turned your key to "on"" (this only happen one time, and no more happen)

2. keep low speed <20kmj while pressing fuel steadily, my car move forward n slow again. (i dont know explain, but it is like you purposely press more fuel, then release and press fuel again)

3. like no power/lost power whenever i stop at traffic light, and press fuel to move, it delay 1 sec before engine rev.

4. engine vibrate and shaking (like want to die off the engine) which can feel inside d car (even my gf can feel it)

unplugged FS, all weird issue listed above disappear.

noticable FS effect:

1. more revvy.. more torque? butt does not feel it, except more easy to rev in D
2. muffler tone more deep

probably it work for other car, but it just weird and not "working" properly in my car. :p i only added 4-2-1, changed muffler, erased check engine code, evolve 2013 vs, and 5 grounding cable. that all i could remember, the rest is not engine parts.

maybe i need to drive more before ecu adapt yea? :x
IMHO, VS does nothing to most cars. In fact, a poorly designed VS can actually cause problems instead. Many snake oil VS are nothing more than couple of capacitors (some are not even designed for above 85C environment).

Then many so-called ignition boosters are nothing more than poorly made DC-DC converters. EG.

Violence VSD-IV Ignition Booster For Sale | sgCarStore

Crappy DC-DC converter.....
 

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IMHO, VS does nothing to most cars. In fact, a poorly designed VS can actually cause problems instead. Many snake oil VS are nothing more than couple of capacitors (some are not even designed for above 85C environment).

Then many so-called ignition boosters are nothing more than poorly made DC-DC converters. EG.

Violence VSD-IV Ignition Booster For Sale | sgCarStore

Crappy DC-DC converter.....
agree with vs, but even removed vs still same. :biggrin: back to topic: maybe other FS owner encounter issue but they dont noticed it? :p
 

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Bro

Its good if we look in the mirror before we keep whining. A reminder to myself and to other would-be whiners also.

I know you already bought the Normal FireStorm so you know what it does for your engine. If you are worried it will kill your ignition coils then you should not have bought and should have waited for Izso to test first or to find a guinea pig to allow you guys to cut it open and see what is inside and how it works.

Your phrase Redo & Duplicate is exactly what you guys here are asking for so I am thinking you are familiar with this term in practice. However if its just hot air that's being passed around in this thread and Forum then its a ZTH thing. The Forummers in other forums dont say openly that they would dishonestly cut open some inventor's product.

If I don't answer the question then you guys say no dealer want to come in but then when I come in to explain you say I dont give a proper explanation. I don't have what you guys want but only based on what actually happened in this past few years.

If you can't accept this then you should not bother wasting your precious time to answer to me since I am not trying to convince you guys to buy the FireStorm. I think you should read through from the point you started this thread and see where is it that I had asked any of you guys to buy the FireStorm???

I only offered a Free testing without any obligation for any guys in Penang but Izso felt this was promoting the FireStorm for sales. How would you expect any dealer to want to sell to ZTH knowing how critical the members here are of any too good to be true products. But you personally should know the answer since you already had the FireStorm fitted in your car?

Do take note how long it will be to the point your spark plug electrodes are eaten up or when your piston has pit holes or when your ignition coil gives up the ghost, all due to the FireStorm. But if you worry all those may happen then you should not have bought the FireStorm or just pass it to someone here to cut it open and share with us if there are really capacitors in the FireStorm? Want to ah?

Cheers.


Well well now I think I know why firestorm can't penetrate ZTH market much.

I don't know la...if you are unable to volunteer a unit for testing it is completely fine. We are requesting, not ordering. Request declined so what we accept it and will not whine coz we will move on and find other ways. Just....reply in a single word or sentence without being sarcastic or condemning other products or sellers. Be a professional and honest seller.

I don't know la...we want to have a thorough test on what the FS can do, apart already having in mind that FS works. But you only kept on saying FS works FS works no problem no problem merry go round round round. Ya it works!! So what?? You think ZTH people would spend few hundred bucks just to have a 2% increase in horsepower?

I don't know la...it is good that no one complaint before that the FS fries the coil or any other electronics so far. Even though that does not mean it won't shorten the coil life cycle...

I don't know la...with sooooo many years of R&D (it's written there japanese technology, I don't know whether the R&D done to market the product here is "Research and Development" or "Redo and Duplicate") and soooo many years of testing the product, there isn't any company name or location. Might or might not be a registered company.

I don't know la...why you wana compare this to Voltage Stabilizer. Two totally different thing...voltage stabilizer does not give bigger spark. It gives consistent voltage to the electron suckers in the car laaa..

I don't know la...why you wana bet this bet that bet bet bet bet..

I don't know la...why other sellers are not coming into this thread since they know the existence of it. The more the merrier.. One drop of vinegar will spoil the whole cow! Ops sorry. It's milk.

I don't know laaa...why I typed so much on Malaysia Day...feeling hopeless towards Malaysia I guess...I don't know la...I don't know laaa...:rofl:
 

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Aiyo... drop it la guys. The test may or may not proceed depending on whether I decide it's worthwhile testing or not. It's not exactly a RM20 item so I have to consider a few things before committing to the amount Peter offered to me.

As for marketing or whatever, whether Peter chooses to promote here or not is his choice. Whether I get a unit for testing or not is my choice (the free sample option is not suitable since the timeframe is too short so I will purchase if I want to proceed).
Whether it works or not remains a question. There is one feedback from AC1 that it doesn't and I know Cvkit's fuel consumption has improved with it.

So let's drop the nasty talk and stick to the topic "Review".

But a stronger spark does not necessary mean more power right? There CDI devices in the market that does the same thing and its designed for racing applications. So, I would feel those devices are more reliable esp. when coupled with a CDI coil.

Btw, why not get a more powerful ignition coil instead? Eg for MSD or Mallory, Crane etc. I would think its better than adding such devices.
Erm.. a stronger spark... how would one achieve a stronger spark? Say you plug in a a MSD so you get a more power ignition coil, that results in what exactly? A stronger spark lor. So what that translates into (power or FC or whatever) is a mystery to me.

probably it work on those completely stock car? i mean nothing added, except VS + FS.

i did added into mine, weird issue are;

1. the engine suddenly almost die off when stop at traffic light "all the meter signal is on, just like you turned your key to "on"" (this only happen one time, and no more happen)

2. keep low speed <20kmj while pressing fuel steadily, my car move forward n slow again. (i dont know explain, but it is like you purposely press more fuel, then release and press fuel again)

3. like no power/lost power whenever i stop at traffic light, and press fuel to move, it delay 1 sec before engine rev.

4. engine vibrate and shaking (like want to die off the engine) which can feel inside d car (even my gf can feel it)

unplugged FS, all weird issue listed above disappear.

noticable FS effect:

1. more revvy.. more torque? butt does not feel it, except more easy to rev in D
2. muffler tone more deep

probably it work for other car, but it just weird and not "working" properly in my car. :p i only added 4-2-1, changed muffler, erased check engine code, evolve 2013 vs, and 5 grounding cable. that all i could remember, the rest is not engine parts.

maybe i need to drive more before ecu adapt yea? :x
That seriously is a weird issue. What car do you drive? I have a feeling you installed the device incorrectly.
 

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What car are you installing the FireStorm into? I can send you the installation photo for you to see if you installed it In correctly.

Cheers.




probably it work on those completely stock car? i mean nothing added, except VS + FS.

i did added into mine, weird issue are;

1. the engine suddenly almost die off when stop at traffic light "all the meter signal is on, just like you turned your key to "on"" (this only happen one time, and no more happen)

2. keep low speed <20kmj while pressing fuel steadily, my car move forward n slow again. (i dont know explain, but it is like you purposely press more fuel, then release and press fuel again)

3. like no power/lost power whenever i stop at traffic light, and press fuel to move, it delay 1 sec before engine rev.

4. engine vibrate and shaking (like want to die off the engine) which can feel inside d car (even my gf can feel it)

unplugged FS, all weird issue listed above disappear.

noticable FS effect:

1. more revvy.. more torque? butt does not feel it, except more easy to rev in D
2. muffler tone more deep

probably it work for other car, but it just weird and not "working" properly in my car. :p i only added 4-2-1, changed muffler, erased check engine code, evolve 2013 vs, and 5 grounding cable. that all i could remember, the rest is not engine parts.

maybe i need to drive more before ecu adapt yea? :x


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Agree. Thank you bro. You are the wise one here.

Cheers.



Aiyo... drop it la guys. The test may or may not proceed depending on whether I decide it's worthwhile testing or not. It's not exactly a RM20 item so I have to consider a few things before committing to the amount Peter offered to me.

As for marketing or whatever, whether Peter chooses to promote here or not is his choice. Whether I get a unit for testing or not is my choice (the free sample option is not suitable since the timeframe is too short so I will purchase if I want to proceed).
Whether it works or not remains a question. There is one feedback from AC1 that it doesn't and I know Cvkit's fuel consumption has improved with it.

So let's drop the nasty talk and stick to the topic "Review".



Erm.. a stronger spark... how would one achieve a stronger spark? Say you plug in a a MSD so you get a more power ignition coil, that results in what exactly? A stronger spark lor. So what that translates into (power or FC or whatever) is a mystery to me.



That seriously is a weird issue. What car do you drive? I have a feeling you installed the device incorrectly.
 

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i would not direct conclude about FS anyways. because from my home to work only about 6km, include other trip, so one day i make only around 20-30km/days. :p lets see after another 1-2 weeks of using. very short distance, and i cant hardly to test, as i only used this car for work.

bro peter, am driving idsi city 2005. installed in fuse no14, with black wire on top, red on bottom.

btw, no15 no fuse, and FS plugged into fuse14, cant start car.

however, if i plug back fuse14 with normal fuse, while fuse15 remain no fuse, i can start the car. it that normal?
 
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Yea..probably don't mix up what others said and point the finger to me and make it like it is from me. Read and remember properly since I believe you have confidence in English.

As for the test, there's really nothing much you can do. It's either you accept or decline to give out a unit to test. But so far there is no firm and rigid answer from your side. But anyway, I am already committed to lend it to Izso if he needs one. So now this question is killed off.

I bought a unit does not mean that I am pro firestorm. I am using doesn't mean that I will recommend others. That is why some of us is eager to have it tested out instead of getting testimonial from one party only. And about the cutting off part, it's up to me what I want to do with it. It's my money. Even if I am able to redo and duplicate, you can try to take me to the court. Before that, go get the product patented first ya..want to ah? I can intro you some company which provides patent application service.

Well I'm not so worried of it frying the coils or whatsoever that is why I bought a unit to try. Regarding my review...need I say more? It's in page 1 =) I created this thread so that people can discuss and share knowledge and experiences. And one contributor in ZTH even would like to contribute to test this product. It is good to have you here to explain what firestorm is, but like I mentioned in page 1, although I'm not a moderator, I would not want to see people marketing the products they are selling and bashing other sellers and products. Lets have a healthy discussion which all the technical and cost worthiness blend in. Fair and square to all. Some talk cock replies are welcomed to make this thread interesting.

I start to see people questioning and you (the seller, the one and only in this thread) replying, which is completely fine. But it gets ugly when the marketing and bashing parts surfaced. You even posted your hp number and selling thread ID lol..and still deny that u r promoting.

Well I'm now committed to only reply to technical and healthy discussion as this is going nowhere.. My sincere apology if I have offended anyone, in particularly you, directly or indirectly.
 

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Ok, I've asked Peter to not to respond to anymore people regarding his loan unit or business practices. That is not up for discussion so anyone else who tries, will get this thread locked and eventually deleted thanks.

cvkit - the question is when la. I'll pm you regarding the loan unit.
 

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Ok, I've asked Peter to not to respond to anymore people regarding his loan unit or business practices. That is not up for discussion so anyone else who tries, will get this thread locked and eventually deleted thanks.

cvkit - the question is when la. I'll pm you regarding the loan unit.
U have not replied when are you coming down from Tibet mountains... :rofl:
 

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vr2turbo and Cvkit : Let's meetup. I wanna see the device. Hehe
Can, no problem...

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U are the one who has been hiding all this while.... :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
Yup.....hahahahaha:rofl:

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The moment the FireStorm is plugged in, you will feel the difference in acceleration power. This is to prove that the FireStorm immediately works. This is also to dispel the skepticism that shrouds the ZTH community.

Unlike other products which claim that it would take a few days or a week before you can feel the difference. By that time the seller would tell you grandfather stories if you ask for a refund on grounds that it doesn't work.
I fitted one set to my Hyundai. Yes, as mentioned by you and the seller who sold to me, the initial feel is there, but after a few days the feel is gone. Car is driven by my daughter and now I am wondering like most ECU cars, have the ECU corrected the unit, or adjusted to it?:confused:
That is why I am offering it to bro. Izso for for comprehensive test...:driver:

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i can spare u a few coil if u need any bro :listen:
seriously something touching the fuse box i don't dare to try, saw alot car burned nowadays :smokin:
I am okay with the installation as the fuse is still in use...:biggrin:

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probably it work on those completely stock car? i mean nothing added, except VS + FS.

i did added into mine, weird issue are;

1. the engine suddenly almost die off when stop at traffic light "all the meter signal is on, just like you turned your key to "on"" (this only happen one time, and no more happen)

2. keep low speed <20kmj while pressing fuel steadily, my car move forward n slow again. (i dont know explain, but it is like you purposely press more fuel, then release and press fuel again)

3. like no power/lost power whenever i stop at traffic light, and press fuel to move, it delay 1 sec before engine rev.

4. engine vibrate and shaking (like want to die off the engine) which can feel inside d car (even my gf can feel it)

unplugged FS, all weird issue listed above disappear.

noticable FS effect:

1. more revvy.. more torque? butt does not feel it, except more easy to rev in D
2. muffler tone more deep

probably it work for other car, but it just weird and not "working" properly in my car. :p i only added 4-2-1, changed muffler, erased check engine code, evolve 2013 vs, and 5 grounding cable. that all i could remember, the rest is not engine parts.

maybe i need to drive more before ecu adapt yea? :x
My unit I transfer from the Hyundai to my VR since same Mitsu fuse box. But immediately my car cannot crank. Have to wait a while then only can crank:banghead:. Removing the FS then can crank immediately. Fitted back tried one round like no effect in my VR, so remove and put back in the Hyundai. In the Hyundai can crank:confused:

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U have not replied when are you coming down from Tibet mountains... :rofl:
We have to climb up mount Tibet maybe.....hahahahaha:rofl:
 

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Hmmm...pay peanuts get peanuts. Whether there is sudden improvement or not, is either psychologically or it really does. Btw, never tried and never believe in things like this that can give improvement to performance. Well, that's just me.

If for fuel saving I might believe but performance improve? I doubt it. Yet never really heard about FireStorm before.
I have more faith in QMax and Hot Inazma, even though there are volt stabilizers. :rofl:
 

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[/QUOTE]My unit I transfer from the Hyundai to my VR since same Mitsu fuse box. But immediately my car cannot crank. Have to wait a while then only can crank:banghead:. Removing the FS then can crank immediately. Fitted back tried one round like no effect in my VR, so remove and put back in the Hyundai. In the Hyundai can crank[/QUOTE]

You cannot just install in any car that has the same fusebox layout. Different cars even though with the same fusebox would have the ignition coil fuse in a different location.

An example would be the Wira Mitsubishi 4G15 engine and the Wira SVDO model. Both use the same fusebox layout but the installation for both models are at different fuse locations.

An authorized dealer will know this and also have the installation for all the car models that have been installed.

I will be installing the FireStorm in a BMW 2.0T F10 year 2012 this week. No other dealer has installed yet so they won't know where to install it.
 

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Hmmm...pay peanuts get peanuts. Whether there is sudden improvement or not, is either psychologically or it really does. Btw, never tried and never believe in things like this that can give improvement to performance. Well, that's just me.

If for fuel saving I might believe but performance improve? I doubt it. Yet never really heard about FireStorm before.
I have more faith in QMax and Hot Inazma, even though there are volt stabilizers. :rofl:
Lol..... Sad to say bro, the Hot Inazma does nothing.... I have the Type MR installed. Bought it to try for fun. But nothing at all. Waste of money.

Now, my only hope is that it extends battery life.
 

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Hmmm...pay peanuts get peanuts. Whether there is sudden improvement or not, is either psychologically or it really does. Btw, never tried and never believe in things like this that can give improvement to performance. Well, that's just me.

If for fuel saving I might believe but performance improve? I doubt it. Yet never really heard about FireStorm before.
I have more faith in QMax and Hot Inazma, even though there are volt stabilizers. :rofl:
Are you kidding? Those vs are over priced and are just glorified vs. even if they work how do you justify the cost of one?


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My unit I transfer from the Hyundai to my VR since same Mitsu fuse box. But immediately my car cannot crank. Have to wait a while then only can crank:banghead:. Removing the FS then can crank immediately. Fitted back tried one round like no effect in my VR, so remove and put back in the Hyundai. In the Hyundai can crank
You cannot just install in any car that has the same fusebox layout. Different cars even though with the same fusebox would have the ignition coil fuse in a different location.

An example would be the Wira Mitsubishi 4G15 engine and the Wira SVDO model. Both use the same fusebox layout but the installation for both models are at different fuse locations.

An authorized dealer will know this and also have the installation for all the car models that have been installed.

I will be installing the FireStorm in a BMW 2.0T F10 year 2012 this week. No other dealer has installed yet so they won't know where to install it.
I'm getting very sick of this guy bashing other sellers so openly here. Some would say this guy has an arrogant attitude.
 

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Are you kidding? Those vs are over priced and are just glorified vs. even if they work how do you justify the cost of one?


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These VS do not work. I am the inazma MR connected to my batt right now. Does nothing. Its just snake oil stuff. Luckily I bought it 2nd hand. Cost me around RM400.
 

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You cannot just install in any car that has the same fusebox layout. Different cars even though with the same fusebox would have the ignition coil fuse in a different location.

An example would be the Wira Mitsubishi 4G15 engine and the Wira SVDO model. Both use the same fusebox layout but the installation for both models are at different fuse locations.

An authorized dealer will know this and also have the installation for all the car models that have been installed.
Of course plug into ignition fuse place. What I am saying is the fuse type also same so no need cut wire.
Don't expect me to plug in my ICE fuse so I get faster bass?:rofl:
 
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I though market price is 200-250 somthing >.< But the transparent packing make me felt so uncomfortable as a consumer, there is nothing else listed
I think I know why already. Why I didn't thought of it earlier.
Producing these without any legal paperwork can skip a lot of unnecessary taxes.
Cleverly done.
 

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As it is interesting to read the hot discussions on this mysterious gadget, I got a little urge to say a few words of my unworthy opinion.

Pivot Mega RAIZIN, a reputable Japanese electronic VS, has detailed product description and even its casing is transparent for all to see what ding dong is inside. Warranty by its maker.

All reputable coilover makers (such as TEIN, even our local boy TITAN) detail their product construction and how it work to improve performance. And come with product warranty by its makers.

Comp Turbo, the first compay to make an oil less turbo charger which is a new thing (as far as i know) is not shy to reveal its construction to some details and gives warranty.

Ultra Racing who produces chassis bars, being just some iron bars, gives warranty.

But FireStorm, anyone here and in this world know the original manufacturer and where to claim warranty asides from the sellers/dealers? Yes I will claim from the seller if this gadget fails. Can I claim from the seller if my whole car is burned down due to faulty gadget? My insurance company won't honor the claim because it is a modification. A nearby car being a collateral damage is suing me for damages. Bandaraya is also taking me to court for damaging the traffic light from my burning car. A passerby is also claiming for injury caused by flying debris from my blown car. So I have no one to turn to except the seller who has claimed to provide warranty. Guess in this situation, what would you get from the seller/dealer?

It may be a bit of exaggeration but a proper and truly reliable product should have revealed every necessary and legally bound information to consumer. Even though this gadget is claimed to be so good and powerful yet the maker who is the ultimate responsible party is so afraid and unwilling to reveal itself (for whatever reasons) should make you think not twice but thousands times over before you want t let it inside your car. Until then, we are just the pioneer genie pigs of this mysterious product.
 
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As it is interesting to read the hot discussions on this mysterious gadget, I got a little urge to say a few words of my unworthy opinion.

Pivot Mega RAIZIN, a reputable Japanese electronic VS, has detailed product description and even its casing is transparent for all to see what ding dong is inside. Warranty by its maker.

All reputable coilover makers (such as TEIN, even our local boy TITAN) detail their product construction and how it work to improve performance. And come with product warranty by its makers.

Comp Turbo, the first compay to make an oil less turbo charger which is a new thing (as far as i know) is not shy to reveal its construction to some details and gives warranty.

Ultra Racing who produces chassis bars, being just some iron bars, gives warranty.

But FireStorm, anyone here and in this world know the original manufacturer and where to claim warranty asides from the sellers/dealers? Yes I will claim from the seller if this gadget fails. Can I claim from the seller if my whole car is burned down due to faulty gadget? My insurance company won't honor the claim because it is a modification. A nearby car being a collateral damage is suing me for damages. Bandaraya is also taking me to court for damaging the traffic light from my burning car. A passerby is also claiming for injury caused by flying debris from my blown car. So I have no one to turn to except the seller who has claimed to provide warranty. Guess in this situation, what would you get from the seller/dealer?

It may be a bit of exaggeration but a proper and truly reliable product should have revealed every necessary and legally bound information to consumer. Even though this gadget is claimed to be so good and powerful yet the maker who is the ultimate responsible party is so afraid and unwilling to reveal itself (for whatever reasons) should make you think not twice but thousands times over before you want t let it inside your car. Until then, we are just the pioneer genie pigs of this mysterious product.
One big problem with all these aftermarket VS, booster etc stuff is they are are mostly very simple electronic devices and many of them use poor quality components but sell at ridiculous price. I am not sure if they could be patented in the first place as well as many designs are not original.

Take VS for eg. Its mostly just capacitors put together into a box. Thats the way to stabilise voltage and reduce ripples. Entire industry is doing it. Not just VS. Power supplies related products all have some form of VS built in to regulate voltage.

Then there is ignition voltage booster. Nothing rocket science (yet to seen one). They are just DC voltage converters. Convert your 12-14V from your alternator and boost it to 16V or higher. Since an ignition coil just a transformer (low to high voltage), a higher primary voltage naturally give a higher secondary voltage. So spark can jump a longer distance and overcome higher resistance. CDI works the same way.

Some are coil boosters which uses capacitors. Connect the capacitors to the primary coil resulting in a higher current supplied to the primary side, so secondary side gets more current and spark becomes more powerful.

Btw, youtube has plenty of video to show pple how to use capacitors and other things to boost ignition.

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Although I am not sure how this firestorm work, I am pretty certain its based on those principles. Hence, I do believe the product does work as advertised.

Why I am avoiding it is because of reliability, not performance. I am not sure what is inside, whether product has been extensively tested to ensure reliability even under extreme conditions. Can it work for 100K w/o any issues?

Then I am also uncertain if my other components could match with the booster. Is my coil still operating within specs so it won't fail prematurely? Can I use an aftermarket coil better suited for the booster? Still got spark plugs also.

Another important factor is noise generated. We all know why spark plugs contain a resistor inside. Why spark plug cables are designed in a certain way (material and coiling) and why the cables have resistance even though all these resistance actually weakens the spark itself.

Non-resistor plugs, silver plated solid wire plug cables etc all can increase spark plug, why can't we use them for our car to increase power despite it being able to increase power and perhaps even reduce fuel consumption?
 

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One big problem with all these aftermarket VS, booster etc stuff is they are are mostly very simple electronic devices and many of them use poor quality components but sell at ridiculous price. I am not sure if they could be patented in the first place as well as many designs are not original.

Take VS for eg. Its mostly just capacitors put together into a box. Thats the way to stabilise voltage and reduce ripples. Entire industry is doing it. Not just VS. Power supplies related products all have some form of VS built in to regulate voltage.

Then there is ignition voltage booster. Nothing rocket science (yet to seen one). They are just DC voltage converters. Convert your 12-14V from your alternator and boost it to 16V or higher. Since an ignition coil just a transformer (low to high voltage), a higher primary voltage naturally give a higher secondary voltage. So spark can jump a longer distance and overcome higher resistance. CDI works the same way.

Some are coil boosters which uses capacitors. Connect the capacitors to the primary coil resulting in a higher current supplied to the primary side, so secondary side gets more current and spark becomes more powerful.

Btw, youtube has plenty of video to show pple how to use capacitors and other things to boost ignition.

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Although I am not sure how this firestorm work, I am pretty certain its based on those principles. Hence, I do believe the product does work as advertised.

Why I am avoiding it is because of reliability, not performance. I am not sure what is inside, whether product has been extensively tested to ensure reliability even under extreme conditions. Can it work for 100K w/o any issues?

Then I am also uncertain if my other components could match with the booster. Is my coil still operating within specs so it won't fail prematurely? Can I use an aftermarket coil better suited for the booster? Still got spark plugs also.

Another important factor is noise generated. We all know why spark plugs contain a resistor inside. Why spark plug cables are designed in a certain way (material and coiling) and why the cables have resistance even though all these resistance actually weakens the spark itself.

Non-resistor plugs, silver plated solid wire plug cables etc all can increase spark plug, why can't we use them for our car to increase power despite it being able to increase power and perhaps even reduce fuel consumption?
Err..cable and wires have resistance because they just have it. No cable is free of resistance yet. It's not because they want to.

Sometimes you feel something is so simple but cost so much is because humans will take things for granted. Now that you know how a VS consists of and how it works, it makes no sense to you why it costs so much. Yes the actual cost is low, I agree. But if you are to make one that can perform like a Mega Raizin, are you able to do so? With time, I believe you can but not many people will actually committed to actually do it right. For example, a DVD is only made of plastic, but it did so much wonders to our world. How much does the plastic actually costs?

Reliability and durability on FS, unfortunately only time could tell as there is no test from the maker and they doesn't provide any written first hand information directly at all. The marketing is done by all the dealers n distributors. Since we can't do much bout that, we would like to see how well it works to I prove one's ride. That is why the pages we have created.

One more thing is that I do not understand why did you say that VS doesn't work. Maybe you could elaborate what did you expect from the VS? Coz as far as my noob knowledge goes, a VS is a voltage regulator...just to regulate voltage. You give too much voltage to some certain electronics, burn...the capacitors are not to pump up the voltage...it's to make sure the output voltage is constant by absorbing fluctuating voltage and then discharge constant voltage. The bigger the cap, the more current and voltage it can stores just like a battery.
 

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Err..cable and wires have resistance because they just have it. No cable is free of resistance yet. It's not because they want to.

Sometimes you feel something is so simple but cost so much is because humans will take things for granted. Now that you know how a VS consists of and how it works, it makes no sense to you why it costs so much. Yes the actual cost is low, I agree. But if you are to make one that can perform like a Mega Raizin, are you able to do so? With time, I believe you can but not many people will actually committed to actually do it right. For example, a DVD is only made of plastic, but it did so much wonders to our world. How much does the plastic actually costs?

Reliability and durability on FS, unfortunately only time could tell as there is no test from the maker and they doesn't provide any written first hand information directly at all. The marketing is done by all the dealers n distributors. Since we can't do much bout that, we would like to see how well it works to I prove one's ride. That is why the pages we have created.

One more thing is that I do not understand why did you say that VS doesn't work. Maybe you could elaborate what did you expect from the VS? Coz as far as my noob knowledge goes, a VS is a voltage regulator...just to regulate voltage. You give too much voltage to some certain electronics, burn...the capacitors are not to pump up the voltage...it's to make sure the output voltage is constant by absorbing fluctuating voltage and then discharge constant voltage. The bigger the cap, the more current and voltage it can stores just like a battery.
Spark plug cables are specially constructed to cut down RFI and EMI generated. The same for spark plugs. This is why they have high resistance.

If you measure a spark plug cable compared to a normal cable, you will find that spark plug cables have much higher resistance. Spark plugs for street use have a 5K ohm resistor as well. This does weaken the spark generated but more importantly reduce RFI and EMI so it does not cause problems to your car's electronics.

I am sure you are also aware of this brand called Nology. They are quite popular for their silver plugs and so-called capacitor cables that improve performance. Unfortunately, their products also caused problems in some cars. This is because their silver plugs do no have a resistor built-in (in order to produce more powerful spark). Then the cables are of shoddy quality as well.

I use Nology before. It works very well right after I installed it. Powerful spark, good acceleration. But after 1+yr, problems appear. I get engine check light at times, car won't start at times. Idling problem. Turns out its the cables, I replace i with the aerospeed cables and problems go away.

After that, I take apart the Nology cable to reveal its construction. Its of rather shoddy quality. A piece of metal braid cover over a ~8mm plug wire to act as capacitor. Thats all. The cables cost me ~RM1K..... Ridiculous money for such cables.

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For VS, I started out not knowing anything. Bought things to try and play, open them up to see the internal construction. You bet I spend alot on VS stuff.

Yes, VS are voltage regulators, they reduce voltage fluctuations (since alternator voltage varies wildly and there is alot of noise). But bigger caps need not be better. You need a mix of big and small caps. Big caps are better suited for low frequency fluctuations, small ones for high frequency. But its very difficult to design one that is suited for car as I do not have proper equipment (need oscilloscope to capture the ripples).

As for why they don't work, well I expect some difference from my butt dyno, but there is nothing. I tried Raizin (the blue one), then hot Inazma MR, Violence VSD. All nothing at all.

Big issue for VS is reliability. You don't know what capacitors they are using inside. Yes, you see the capacitors inside clear plastic. But what capacitors are they using? Engine bay temp is easily 80C, how long can the capacitors operate under the condition? Those caps look awfully like electrolytic capacitors. What I don't like about the caps is they some are rated at 80C only. There are those 105C ones. But problem is they have finite lifespan as electrolyte evaporates over time.

Tantalum caps will work very well under such situations but they are expensive.

Btw, I do have the raizin ignition VS (the red colour one). It has been in my car for 3yrs, so far so good. The Inazma MR is still connected to my batt (though it does nothing other than show me blinking lights). Inazma still ok as I relocate my batt to trunk so temp is not an issue.

Lastly, I am someone who always love to try out new stuff. All these VS, ignition booster stuff interest me greatly. Right now, although I am skeptical about this firestorm, but I am actually itching to try out.