Retreat! -Review: R3 Satria

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I just cant get enough of it. Yes, yes, you may know it as a light-weight versison of the Satria GTi, but this, this is definately more than what you know
it is, and will be. Everything about the R3 Satria is what the GTi will never be
out of the factory. the R3's got better handling, better braking, better power,
better performance bits, and of course, the base of what the R3 Satria is, a
whole lot more tighter and stiffer shell.


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No nonsense. The essence of the R3 Satria. Well, not literally, it still
retains the basic necessities. Now, here's what the GTi has that the R3 will
never get out of the factory. The GTi has a lot more insulation and that's just
about it. But remember, the R3 is a serious pocket-rocket for both road and track. No,
with less insulation, and a sports exhaust, it's not much noisier inside compared
to the GTi.</p>



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So how does the R3 achieve the better handling, better braking, better
power, and better performance?
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Let's talk about the all-important stiffer R3

Basically, the body has been rigorously spot-welded, where the seams and
crucial flex points are, including the pillars. Then it's the strut bars in both
front and rear to compliment it further. You'll be surprised how well this works.
The car is now so nice and firm, not only you don't hear sounds, feel body flex,
less body roll, but there's no worries cruising at 180km/h out of the factory!,
High speed sweepers are a breeze. But where the R3 really performs will be on
the twist and turns up Gentings and Camerons.</p>



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But all these will not be well executed without the better brakes. It's got
bigger discs and of course better pads. Then it won't be as nimble and swift
without the lightweight 16s and Yokohama Neova performance tyres as standard!.</p>


The R3 team spent massive amount of hours on suspension tuning,
perfecting the shock and spring rates. With no possible areas to go wrong like body rigidity and other anomalies,
It's going to be perfect. The R3 Satria is a sure-footed enthusiast' machine!. The power-steering has also been
hacked stiff to provide more steering feedback.</p>



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Let's get to the engine, What's different?

Nothing really, with the same engine, it pumps out just a little more than
the GTi, through the ECU retune, performance exhaust system from the stainless
extractors, to the rear sports muffler. But since the R3 Satria isn't about
being really fast or breaking the speed barrier, this is sufficient for
performance-to-efficiency ratio. But it is of course, significantly quicker than
the GTi. The R3 Satria is a driver's car. The car to drive for enthusiastic
twisting up and downhills on Saturdays, and race tracks on Sundays and then be
king of the road from Monday to Friday.</p>



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Interior?

But what really keeps your own body planted into the well planted R3 Satria
is the furniture. The nice and firm pair of all-new and improved Recaro SR4
sports seats don't need much introduction, So doesn't the really meaty Momo Tuner
sports steering wheel and so doesn't the lightweight carbon fiber gear knob.
What makes the R3 Satria interior special is the colour scheme offered as well. Red and
black. It's even got the retro motorsport red safety belts which disappeared
since the late 80's!</p>



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So what are the novelty yet purposeful performance bits included?

Carbon fiber bits! There is the carbon fiber rear roof spoiler, carbon fiber
engine plug cover, and the orgasmic carbon fiber gear knob. Machined aluminium
red anodized steering boss, cool R3 badges all-round, and the motorsport body
pin-striping</p>



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So, what do i really like about the R3 Satria?, hmm.

Firstly, the first thing that turned me on was the feel of the road. it's
firm and sure yet comfortable. I love cruising in it at over 160 and
complimenting its chassis for handling the task of high speed uneven concrete
highway driving. I love its brakes, and I really love it's GREAT handling!! </p>


I love everything about the R3 Satria, though I'd wish for a tad more power.
that's just about it.</p>



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:D ...cool review Tom....what tom said was right...i test drive the R3 and it feels more better than GTi when at 170 km/h cruising..the handling and stability was great..it really did impress me for a PROTON!!..want to buy it, but still can't afford it.... :( ...worth buying for car enthusiast out there!! ;)
 

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ha... if i rich i sure change it to rs jo... no need headached..... how to mod my slow satria... <_<
 

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The tagline for the Satria R3 should really be
"The M24 Satria R3 LEV. REAL Drivers Wanted."
 

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isit true no more rs left??sold out kaa??whats da price range ahh
 

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nice.. black color scheme wif R3 liveries really make the car cool.. not to mention the performance.. probably the best proton so far, a good balance of performance and economy..

anyways 67 units are left and priced at RM 77 888 according to www.proton-edar.com.my
 

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Thanks for the great review, Tom. Couldn't be better.

BTW, they removed the front ARB for you to take pics of the spot welding?
 

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Wait and see when they all convoy ramai2 to sic... all blacks team!
 

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"But remember, the R3 is a serious pocket-rocket for both road and track" <---....lol...R3 is serious...my satria,not so serious.... :P

Udeng...its called R3 coz its short for "Race Rally Research" ade brapa 'R'? tiga kan?? ma R3 lorr.... :lol: :lol:
 

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Tom, Nice write up. Good pics too.

Prozac, there's no need to remove the ARB to see the double spot welds. If you look around the front suspension turrets you can see how close the double spot welds are.
 

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Originally posted by prozac@Dec 29 2004, 22:27
Thanks for the great review, Tom. Couldn't be better.

BTW, they removed the front ARB for you to take pics of the spot welding?
hahahhaha :lol:

what talking you la

ARB is at the bottom le, where it's attached to the lower arms (usually)
in this case, it's attached to the damper body..

you mean the strut bar aR?
still there le :rolleyes:
 

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Just my opinion.

I dun recommend for buying this car.
becos u will spend money on old design car and engine. I love sport like car, R3 give me the feel, but so what i will not spend my money on the old design car. I rather buy the Toyota Avanza.

For Proton, its enough for them to making this light modified car. Their Waja and Gen-2 is better than this, why dun they put more investment on design new car ?
 

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Originally posted by tvcat@Dec 30 2004, 12:29
Just my opinion.

I dun recommend for buying this car.
becos u will spend money on old design car and engine. I love sport like car, R3 give me the feel, but so what i will not spend my money on the old design car. I rather buy the Toyota Avanza.

For Proton, its enough for them to making this light modified car. Their Waja and Gen-2 is better than this, why dun they put more investment on design new car ?

Dood,

I don't think comparing a Toyota Avanza + an SR3 is fair. Actually, I think its almost a funny statement to make dude. They both serve different markets and entirely different cars. Evidently my brother bought an Avanza about the same time I booked my SR3. I love my SR3 and he loves his Avanza, case closed.

To say that the Waja or the Gen-2 is better than the SR3 is subjective. Better in terms of what? Perhaps you should check out the facts in more detail before assuming that the only modifications to the SR3 was lightening. That's shallow bro.

The 4G93 is an old engine huh? How about a 4G63?

Proton Motorsports IS working on an R3 version of the Gen-2 for your info and it will have more substantial work done on it than the Satria R3. Keep your eyes peeled!
 

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AVANZAAAAAaaaaaaaa!!!

BHWAAHHAHAHahahahahahahah..........sry got carried away by the ingenius ad


like the above said, how u compare a "4dr 7-seater family mini mpv" against a "2dr ethusiast limited edition hatch"?????

is there similiarity? hmmm i gues if u say yes would b yeah both got 4+1 wheels ...steering wheel(momo vs???), seats(heck recaro comparing wit wat?), gearknob???

come on, u gotta b kidding my fren!

guyz, its a JOKE! :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

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yah cant compare...but did anyone ride this car or pushed this ar before?as i see, it has no air flow meter like normal 4G93 P and has new throttle body indicates the seimens ECU..hows the performance like?
 

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Ignore it guys. The fellas got a grand total of ONE post and decided to share his ill advised opinion. Let it slide.
 

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Originally posted by TODA6866@Dec 30 2004, 13:41
AVANZAAAAAaaaaaaaa!!!

BHWAAHHAHAHahahahahahahah..........sry got carried away by the ingenius ad


like the above said, how u compare a "4dr 7-seater family mini mpv" against a "2dr ethusiast limited edition hatch"?????

is there similiarity? hmmm i gues if u say yes would b yeah both got 4+1 wheels ...steering wheel(momo vs???), seats(heck recaro comparing wit wat?), gearknob???

come on, u gotta b kidding my fren!

guyz, its a JOKE! :lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol: nola VTEC in da house~! Mike~! Where have u been? When take me go Praaaaaaaaa.....Praaaaaaaaaa....PRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! :lol:

R3 is a really nice car. Met one on the highway the other day..fuh, really got 'presence' la this car..like Takumi's AE86 got aura like that :lol:

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Originally posted by si|verfish@Dec 30 2004, 13:45
Ignore it guys. The fellas got a grand total of ONE post and decided to share his ill advised opinion. Let it slide.
Sry im not here for war, i have my first post becos i just found this forum. U can comment on what i say like other but not just say what "ignore" or "let it slide", plz respect each other.

Im not comparing it, what i wan to say is put more investment on design new car to compete with other company, if got R3 version of gen-2 sure i support it, cos new tech. We already many step behind other car maker, i dun wish proton to disappear.
 

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Originally posted by udengfahlawi@Dec 30 2004, 09:45
just curious...why is it called "R3"?...was there "R1" and R2" which I dont know about? :blink:
the R3 means Race, Rally, Research. That's the definition FYR..
 

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Originally posted by tvcat+Dec 30 2004, 14:05 --></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (tvcat @ Dec 30 2004, 14:05 )</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-si|verfish@Dec 30 2004, 13:45
Ignore it guys. The fellas got a grand total of ONE post and decided to share his ill advised opinion. Let it slide.
Sry im not here for war, i have my first post becos i just found this forum. U can comment on what i say like other but not just say what "ignore" or "let it slide", plz respect each other.

Im not comparing it, what i wan to say is put more investment on design new car to compete with other company, if got R3 version of gen-2 sure i support it, cos new tech. We already many step behind other car maker, i dun wish proton to disappear. [/b][/quote]
Errmm...dude...the others are going to eat you alive. I asked them to ignore it cos you're a newbie and let it slide (which basically means to forgive the ill advised post of yours). How is that disrespectful?
 

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I think they might still have stock.... otherwise why would they continue to promote it?

They set up a booth at the Alex Yoong F1 Driver Search Event at Xtremepark, Sunway and the salesmen and female promoters were giving out brochures and posters of the R3.



 

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3R?? Aiyoo don't laa associate us with a bunch of girls on TV.

Those of you that wanna purchase the car or see the online brochure @ www.racerallyresearch.com

Better yet a bunch of owners are gathering at Pasar TTDI stalls at 9pm. I'll be more than happy to give a lowdown on the car.
 

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3R sounds like u wanna wash the pictures in a film like that.....haih...upgraded powderful car,name must sound oso rite....hehhehe
 

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can c from da pic..state there...Stage 1.... what is inside at Stage 1?

what about Stage 2?and Stage 3 ....maybe???
 

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The current SR3 comes out of factory with Stage 1 mods which translates to 140bhp, 168Nm torque via mods like free flow exhaust, tuned-length + mandrel bent headers, advanced cam timing, tuned suspension, brakes and of course the lightening and chassis strengthening.

Stage 2 will encompass more advanced mods - coilover suspension, a 160bhp atc, piggyback ECU (perhaps)

This is in planning and should surface sometime next year. (1 day away!)

Keep your eyes peeled.
 

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howdy guys ..

if i'm not mistaken, stage 2 and stage 3 upgrade can or shall i say should be done by R3 team in order to get their certification.

i took a wild ride with faizal (one of the R3 crew) around kota damansara on one wet midnight (after rain). superb handling and braking .. a bit lack on the torque division though, but i'm sure that can be arrange.
 

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Hahah was a bit confused over the ARB bit. Thanks for pointing it out.

Yalor. Shit man, really should've bought an Avanza instead. Will definately scare the crap outta other racers when I take it through the turns in SIC. Especially with my VVTI ENGINE!!!
 

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Wow, imagine this - if there was enough demand for a performance version Avanza, we could see a specially tuned TRD Avanza RS sometime soon. 1.8litre VVTi engine from the Celica, 1000kgs, 17" rims, GT wing (no idea where that goes), widebody kit with Kembara kangaroo bar, anti-roll bar, coilover suspension and twin-pot brake set-up.

Whoa. Definitely SIC material.

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Actually..Are they sElling the White Color R3. Issit 2 kind of color and rims to choose? Because the white Color satria advanti's rimS looks more cun. :P :P :P Jus wanna knoe.
 

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Originally posted by nikkivec@Dec 31 2004, 19:43
Actually..Are they sElling the White Color R3. Issit 2 kind of color and rims to choose? Because the white Color satria advanti's rimS looks more cun. :P :P :P Jus wanna knoe.
only black color avaiable for sale
 

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the white one is the actual SSO spec vehicle...price is most likely double that of the roadgoing r3...or more....
cheers
 

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Originally posted by tvcat@Dec 30 2004, 12:29
Just my opinion.

I dun recommend for buying this car.
becos u will spend money on old design car and engine. I love sport like car, R3 give me the feel, but so what i will not spend my money on the old design car. I rather buy the Toyota Avanza.

For Proton, its enough for them to making this light modified car. Their Waja and Gen-2 is better than this, why dun they put more investment on design new car ?
c'mon lar bro. i know car design is important, but the R3 IMO is designed for car enthusiast who like sporty driving, and these kind of ppl are more attracted to the performance of a car than how it looks.

go to reuters car review and read what they say for protons car. they say the GTI is great, if the price is lower. if GTI is acceptable then what about the R3?

they say the waja is too expensive for its kind, no value, and so so performance and not so impresive handling.
the gen2? they say buy bicycle is better.

just my 2 cent. dun flame me.