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I've been thinking that IF I go for a project car in perhaps 5-6 years and given the limited budget, what car would be a good choice and why?

I've been having pretty weird nightly dreams of driving my old Wira around, kinda shows how much I miss having a car I can properly enjoy.

Anyway, what would be your project car, budget breakdown and how would you go about project-ing it?

(Yes - this sounds very much like *another* one of those type of threads. Sorry la)
 

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Proton Satria 1.6 Manual. even on stock form its a pretty decent handling car/chassis. the car itself is cheap... parts are abundance. parts are cheap.
mods can be cheap or expensive. tonnes of knowledgeable workshops. modification options practically limitless.

for outright power.. Nissan Cefiro A31. car itself is cheap. FR layout. and u can fit an RB26 in there. even RB25 equipped cars are cheaper than than a stock converted EG6. and its a 4 door sedan so can still be used as a family car :D
 

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I've been thinking that IF I go for a project car in perhaps 5-6 years and given the limited budget, what car would be a good choice and why?

I've been having pretty weird nightly dreams of driving my old Wira around, kinda shows how much I miss having a car I can properly enjoy.

Anyway, what would be your project car, budget breakdown and how would you go about project-ing it?

(Yes - this sounds very much like *another* one of those type of threads. Sorry la)
Lancer Evo IX or VIII MR.
Budget breakdowns? Hmm difficult to estimate but probably just what ever it takes to get it up to max 300-350whp and can still be daily driven.
First make sure all in good condition especially exterior & interior and basically healthy in stock before starting to upgrade bit by bit.
Usually I'd start with suspension, rims & tires, then maybe brakes (but Evo brakes is pretty good already so maybe just upgrade the pads, brake hose, and discs).
Only then start moving to power upgrades but probably try to retain stock turbo or upgrade to the ones with magnesium turbine if the stock car doesn't come with it yet (only IX MR comes with such turbine if not mistaken). May want to stroke it to 2.3ltr also to get more torque down below.

Oh ya audio system also must be upgraded to keep me company during traffic jams, but would not spend much on it, probably just similar with what I've done to my Mark X (decent front component set plus 2 cheap powered under seat subs). :biggrin:

And of course must have all security measures I can think of!

Cannot think too much detail yet coz haven't really own one.:smokin:
 

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Kelisa. Transplant YRV turbo and improved handling
Cheap and nice.
Having owned a Kelisa in the past, I didn't like it then, I won't like it now. Cheap yes, nice no. Actually - cheap where got cheap? The engine mounts altogether are so bloody expensive.

Lancer Evo IX or VIII MR.
Budget breakdowns? Hmm difficult to estimate but probably just what ever it takes to get it up to max 300-350whp and can still be daily driven.
First make sure all in good condition especially exterior & interior and basically healthy in stock before starting to upgrade bit by bit.
Usually I'd start with suspension, rims & tires, then maybe brakes (but Evo brakes is pretty good already so maybe just upgrade the pads, brake hose, and discs).
Only then start moving to power upgrades but probably try to retain stock turbo or upgrade to the ones with magnesium turbine if the stock car doesn't come with it yet (only IX MR comes with such turbine if not mistaken). May want to stroke it to 2.3ltr also to get more torque down below.

Oh ya audio system also must be upgraded to keep me company during traffic jams, but would not spend much on it, probably just similar with what I've done to my Mark X (decent front component set plus 2 cheap powered under seat subs). :biggrin:

And of course must have all security measures I can think of!

Cannot think too much detail yet coz haven't really own one.:smokin:
Dude... I dunno about you but my budget isn't that big. Besides, this is a project car, it's not going to be a daily. But if that's what rocks your boat, good on you man!

Proton Satria 1.6 Manual. even on stock form its a pretty decent handling car/chassis. the car itself is cheap... parts are abundance. parts are cheap.
mods can be cheap or expensive. tonnes of knowledgeable workshops. modification options practically limitless.

for outright power.. Nissan Cefiro A31. car itself is cheap. FR layout. and u can fit an RB26 in there. even RB25 equipped cars are cheaper than than a stock converted EG6. and its a 4 door sedan so can still be used as a family car :D
Nice. But I've heard the Cefiro is too much aging as it is, probably will be hard to find a good condition chassis?

bro, what is your preference? jap or conti?
"Your project car". I was asking everyone in general if you had a budget what would be your choice.

Personally - I have no preference. Just no French.
 

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Dude... I dunno about you but my budget isn't that big. Besides, this is a project car, it's not going to be a daily. But if that's what rocks your boat, good on you man!
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So far never been able to have a separate project car from daily one coz not enough budget and no place to keep the extra car too! (only have 2 car parks, one for mine and the other for the wife).
If going a bit cheaper, I'd just get older Evos like Evo IV-VII, but still basically doing similar things.

Still haven't been able to realize this yet though.:smokin:
 

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after watching bunch of WheelersDealers, if i were to have a project car, maybe an SW20 or Beat.
Why? I never driven a midship car, and with the engine in the rears, would like to hands on/learn on improving coolings n engine power up etc.

I dont know the budget would be, but what i would do
- beaten sw20 or beat would be fine as long the body shell is in good condition. body restoration
- if engine is fine, might consider rebuilt for turbo. doesnt need to be fast, but more on fun handling.
- stock interiors refurb/replacement.

all-in-all, it needs to be so different than what i currently drive.
but then again, my DD is an old almost-20yo EG =__="

*i'd consider a Lotus if theres cheap one going around due to beaten engine/interiors
 

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So far never been able to have a separate project car from daily one coz not enough budget and no place to keep the extra car too! (only have 2 car parks, one for mine and the other for the wife).
If going a bit cheaper, I'd just get older Evos like Evo IV-VII, but still basically doing similar things.

Still haven't been able to realize this yet though.:smokin:
Yeah me too. Had a free car and couldn't even keep that. LOL! But project cars don't always have to be expensive. I heard you can get a KE70 for less than 3k these days. But that kinda car probably will need a lot of rust work.

Personally I want a cheap 4WD to play with. One fine day.

after watching bunch of WheelersDealers, if i were to have a project car, maybe an SW20 or Beat.
Why? I never driven a midship car, and with the engine in the rears, would like to hands on/learn on improving coolings n engine power up etc.

I dont know the budget would be, but what i would do
- beaten sw20 or beat would be fine as long the body shell is in good condition. body restoration
- if engine is fine, might consider rebuilt for turbo. doesnt need to be fast, but more on fun handling.
- stock interiors refurb/replacement.

all-in-all, it needs to be so different than what i currently drive.
but then again, my DD is an old almost-20yo EG =__="

*i'd consider a Lotus if theres cheap one going around due to beaten engine/interiors
Wow, SW20 / Lotus no matter the age will be expensive man!
 

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Satria with 4G63T loh! My friend did one. Dismantle, polish, balance and mod further until he got 340 bhp out of it. Anyway is project right, not legal......hhahhahahahhaha:rofl:
 

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Get an old mini and build it up from there. It would be fun, zippy and darts around easily like a go-cart.

The car is so small, that repair work and be done in confined spaces. Parts won't take up spaces as well.
You could even service the car indoor. hahaha...
 

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Get an old mini and build it up from there. It would be fun, zippy and darts around easily like a go-cart.

The car is so small, that repair work and be done in confined spaces. Parts won't take up spaces as well.
You could even service the car indoor. hahaha...
Parts difficult to find and expensive.....
 

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Yeah me too. Had a free car and couldn't even keep that. LOL! But project cars don't always have to be expensive. I heard you can get a KE70 for less than 3k these days. But that kinda car probably will need a lot of rust work.

Personally I want a cheap 4WD to play with. One fine day.

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For me I avoid too old beaten up cars coz I need to use immediately for daily so at least must be decent enough to be used straight away. I also like Altezza and S15R but Evos are still top of my list.

If I were still in Jkt, I'd actually buy a 1995-1996 320E W124 manual and fix it up nicely. I like this car very much coz it's very comfortable but yet powerful enough, reliable, sturdy body, and easy to maintain, not like today's complicated cars. Can upgrade engine to 3.8ltr using Brabus kit some more. :driver: But here due to the stupid road tax, I have to forgone this! :banghead:

If cheap AWD then get early 90s Mitsubishi Galant VR4 lor, that's the cheapest and an excellent car already! Second option is first gen Subaru WRX GC8 but still much more expensive than VR4. I'd go with the VR4 if I were you, still got a few on sale these days.
 

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Parts difficult to find and expensive.....
"Playing" car is hardly an affordable affair, for that matter.
Even daily bread & butter ride need money to keep it running.

My die-cast car collection oso expensive as hobby, if I total-up the money I have spent on them.
 

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Personally - I have no preference. Just no French.

:mad::mad::mad: Excuse me.....You got something against French cars??? :thefinger::thefinger: :rofl::rofl:


If it have the budget, personally i would go with the RX-7 as my project car. As it is a 5 year project, i think is do-able. Plus not going to be a daily, so no issue there as well though.

Just love the car. The looks. The lines. The BRAAAAAAAAPPPPPP. Parts are relatively easy to source but not necessary cheap. But if you spreading it over 5 years, cost wise i think ok la. And not planning to make it a 500hp Braaaaapppp Monster, so not much performance mods needed, so cost lower.
 

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Nice. But I've heard the Cefiro is too much aging as it is, probably will be hard to find a good condition chassis?
naah..there are quite a number of decent cars out there.. both in stock form and modded. as with all older cars, just need to find.
 

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This discussion is useless if you don't establish your budget. I'd say a Satria Neo CPS if you want something newer, but that engine you can't do that much. Otherwise, the 4G93 Putra or the Satria. If you want to mess around, the Satria and Putra of the 4G eras are the best due to the huge amount of parts available, and the affordability.

BUT... that's boring.. FWD.. common chassis..common engine. You want MORE fun..gonna cost MORE money.

The Altezza. the stock 3SGE BEAMS is lots of fun already. Not enough? 1JZ & 2JZ round the corner. FR lagi..

Personally, I think a Kelisa with a K3-VET is huge amounts of fun, due to the power to weight ratio is so close to the Lotus Elise mk1. Except it doesn't quite corner that well.
 

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Personally I'd like a 4WD or a FR car. I've become quite fond of the Toyota Chaser. A full on yakuza look with a 2jz/1jz would be quite awesome.
 

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Personally I'd like a 4WD or a FR car. I've become quite fond of the Toyota Chaser. A full on yakuza look with a 2jz/1jz would be quite awesome.
Same I also only want AWD or RWD now, already bored with FWD.
Yup, that Chaser is also nice but very rare to find.

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This discussion is useless if you don't establish your budget. I'd say a Satria Neo CPS if you want something newer, but that engine you can't do that much. Otherwise, the 4G93 Putra or the Satria. If you want to mess around, the Satria and Putra of the 4G eras are the best due to the huge amount of parts available, and the affordability.

BUT... that's boring.. FWD.. common chassis..common engine. You want MORE fun..gonna cost MORE money.

The Altezza. the stock 3SGE BEAMS is lots of fun already. Not enough? 1JZ & 2JZ round the corner. FR lagi..

Personally, I think a Kelisa with a K3-VET is huge amounts of fun, due to the power to weight ratio is so close to the Lotus Elise mk1. Except it doesn't quite corner that well.
Or convert the Satria GTI into an AWD using the VR4/Evo drive train and 4G63T engine. That would be a blast, small lightweight hot hatch with gob smacking power in AWD! :biggrin:

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:mad::mad::mad: Excuse me.....You got something against French cars??? :thefinger::thefinger: :rofl::rofl:


If it have the budget, personally i would go with the RX-7 as my project car. As it is a 5 year project, i think is do-able. Plus not going to be a daily, so no issue there as well though.

Just love the car. The looks. The lines. The BRAAAAAAAAPPPPPP. Parts are relatively easy to source but not necessary cheap. But if you spreading it over 5 years, cost wise i think ok la. And not planning to make it a 500hp Braaaaapppp Monster, so not much performance mods needed, so cost lower.
This one then:
Mazda RX-7 (M) - Cars for sale in Kluang, Johor :biggrin: