newbie needs help

[jack.frost]

I've been driving my stock Satria 1.3i for around 7 years and lately I've just finished paying for it (woot!~). As you know, a 7 year old car is like almost falling apart aka bad paint, dents, rusts, rattling engine, creaking suspensions etc etc. So, I'd like to do a total external(paint+bodykit) and internal refurbishing, inclusive of a new engine. I'm looking at a cost of around <8k if possible...

i'm totally a newbie when it comes to car modding, i hope the seniors here can give some advice on parts and workshops...

try to go slow with me on the jargons and specs :confused_smile:

 

[kyheng]

With all the problems that you stated on top, I think on engine you change the mountings, do a fuel flush, engine flush. Unless your engine got very big problem, if not what for want to change an engine? Sometimes after change the engine the performance will be worst, as no mechanic can assure you that this engine is 100% good. If got then he is trying to cheat you.

 

[jack.frost]

With all the problems that you stated on top, I think on engine you change the mountings, do a fuel flush, engine flush. Unless your engine got very big problem, if not what for want to change an engine? Sometimes after change the engine the performance will be worst, as no mechanic can assure you that this engine is 100% good. If got then he is trying to cheat you.

thanks for the good advice... but personally i want to do up the car as well you see =) i'm thinking of dropping a mivec in sometime soon...

 

[kyheng]

Mivec engine... Then please prepare rm10++, the engine alone(halfcut) already cost rm5-6k minimum if not mistaken few years back. If repaint need rm2-3k, weld back the rust parts, cover back dented parts depend how many place rusted. Bodykit 500-1000. Change to bigger engine braking system have to change as well, another 2k maybe, change suspension and springs another 2k.

 

[jack.frost]

i c i c... cool... thanks for the estimated price... i tink i'll look around more to see what mods is affordable to me... 10k mebbe can vomit out.. more than that, ouch...

 

[Fluffy]

well..a cheaper upgrade would be a 4G93..not as powerful..but better than wat u have right now.

 

[kyheng]

If want mod with budget way, can try to mod the engine block from 1.3 to 1.5, so at the end of day you still pay 1.3 road tax but having a '1.5' engine. I think this cost few hundred the most. My opinion is if you engine never give you any problem besides the mounting might be failed already, is better to keep it.

 

[Fluffy]

whoops.a jump to 1.8 frm a 1.3 i think is kinda impossible to do now.
oh well..got lotsa lancer 1.5 engines in chopshops..just need to look for em.

 

[kyheng]

Is 1.5 my friend, not 1.8. I got few friends do like this already, only the down part, the FC is higher compare to a 1.3 engine. Half cut 1.5 Mitsubishi engines alot in the market. Price can start from as cheap as rm1300 till few ks. But nobody can tell that how good the engine can perform. Some eat oil, lack of power, come out white smoke. All is depend on our luck. Even a good mechanic cannot tell how good is the engine by its first look. Unless they know the previous owner or they are trying to cheat us.

 

[jack.frost]

yea, i guess kyheng is right.. its by luck... been to a few motorshops in sunway and subang that does car modifications, they also tell me the same thing... at least they didn't lie to me directly, heh...

thanks fluffy.. will look at the 4G93 u mentioned...

 

[rollakid]

i don't really think 4g93 can easily go in 1.3liter ori chasis, as far as paperwork is concerned, its over 25% capacity already.

8k budget with bodykit, interior, and engine... your best bet is to get a 4g91 halfcut if you want a twincam engine.

anyone know the price of 4g61 out there now? i know its an old engine, but still fast, i have trouble chasing down one of those.. maybe just the driver crazy lar.. but i think its good too, the engine.. that is..

 

[e819]

drop in a 4G91/92 DOHC enuf.. h/c 3000-3500 instalation 1500 (plus approvel)
suspension 500 monroe s enuf rear disc brakes 500 plus installation
good paint work plus repair dent etc etc about 2000
interior >> seats + small2 here and there 1000

TOTAL >> 9 k... spare another 1k for emergency

>>> MY 2 CENTS

 

[e819]

Half cut 1.5 Mitsubishi engines alot in the market. Price can start from as cheap as rm1300 till few ks

i guess this s price for 4g15.. i recently did a survey for 4g91 and all chop shop offer 2.8k above for a halfcut w/o bodyparts

 

[kyheng]

So you mean that 4g91 engine all will cost rm5000? The rm1300 is few years back price, and the mech never tell me which engine.

 

[e819]

nearly 5k.. maybe about 4k-4.5k depand on what u hav 2 change... but its best to budget xtra a bit in case any thing... the price only recently increase this year as i suyvey h/c 4G91 4 my fren... early last year i bought 3 h/c 4G91 and the most expensif complete with bodypart and digital air cond only 1.8k...

but for 4g15 or 4g13 i know its cheap.. few hundred spend u can get 2 years old mitsu engine... my experiance...