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today i went with friends..to a car accesories..shop
around puchong corner..

i brought a Whitebulb..Name (Platinum H4 12v Volt-> 100/90w-180-140w)
Cost me Rm48

n the guys install it to my car..
after install n ..try it..firstly i c...it doesnt show any white light come out..i can only C.. reclect yellow light..as usual..cause in noon...
the guys..say that coz..now sunny Hot..he assume me to try at night..
than it goes differents...

he ask me to change the small light- bulb as wells..to white..
so it show more bright at night..(so i changed it)

so..at the night i try..

its goes Yellow light!! like usual i using..cant notifty like a white light oso..
Wat the fark man!!

i am wonder..is it my front fog lamp..is abit light yellow..so it direct out..seem yellow colour?
it impossible right?hmmmm...

help guys..i feels cheater..darn!
 

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go back to the shop and TIU them kau kau.....ask them go to hell...if ur light is white...u on d light on morning, afternoon or night oso white la dude.....go back n tiu..ask refund
 

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Just go back to the shop and complaint lar
 

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white light wanted

hi there,

most standard halogen bulbs(wira,saga, etc) project a yellow light. Usually changing just the bulb wont get you significantly brighter or whiter light.

why dont you take advantage of one of our forum member
http://zerotohundred.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=21467
who is selling hid kits real cheap. ask him to courier to you and go your mech to install, unless you from b/worth or penang get from him straight.

Remember, running 100w halogens per side, u might lose batt power faster, melt your headlamps(plastic) and the bulbs dont last as long...

On the other hand, HID conversion is illegal. someone please correct me.

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48for a pair of bulbs, you would not really get the White Bulb Deal..
unless you decide to spray your headlight covers to Blue colour which will change the spectrum of light to White significantly..
other than that, opt for a HID kit that is cheaper nowadays..
 

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cap ayam white buld is white la....coz i put in before but very fast burn la....so better dub buy...HID is cheap if only low beam....if low n high beam then will be very expensive.......rite?

buy philip white bulb lo....cheaper than PIAA....n get a conversion kit.....rm200 enuf for all......
 

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Hey DJ Mobile,

Heard of tungsten to daylight conversion filter gels for par cans? Instant white light hahaahhaha

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Most of the cheap cheap HID or Halogen white bulbs are not very white.

But of course if compared with stock bulb, it is WAY much less yellowish.

And these cheap white bulbs are not bright especially during low light time like dusk.
 

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ahh guys..
it kinda irritate..
today went to there again..

he try several different branded..white bulb to try it..
the result come out~> still the darn Same!!
(almost try all thier white bulb..who selling there)

Wat the fark man!
i fark him kau kau..hey man..why all ur white bulb so cheap one..
cant even see..a white light come out oso..
like tis u oso dare to sell ??

n u know wat he say.!!?
he say..i dunno..why only ur car..like tis..
several customer buy from us..no promble one..
n he say..maybe ur (Eyelips) block the fog lamp lights..come out..
so it wont show white light..frequently..

darn!wat a good excuses!
so i ask him..return me money..
he say..cannot..coz..already key in pc..
oh god..!i am kinda headache..now..

after than the supervisior come out..
ask me calm down..
he say..they hv one more stok..Brighten white one..
but currently out of stok...(but may need to additional some)
ask me come back on friday or saturday..later..

i admit he spoke real(coz..that guys who serve me.told me before that)

no Choice!
gonna wait till saturday..
farking hard..


hey guys..i hv one question..
wat kind situation..it necessary to add Cable delay?
i am kinda confuse abt it...
 

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i buy cap ayam oso last time. the bulb should be blue colour then beam out white lite. u need to change small light also. but these cap ayam white bulb not bright but yrs shuld be different cause 100w. my one damn lousy..dark area can see white lite but when out in slightly lighted area, feel light headlite wasn't on. worse than original light.
then later change to philip bulb..cost rm200. much better.....
 

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Do not look down on cap ayam light.. some is good product.. why philip more expensive.. coz got warranty.. rm30~rm50 cap ayam light is total dissapointment n better dun produce la.. name is white but i also dunno wat kinda color is dat..

i tried different kind of cap ayam's bulb b4.. range from rm10 ~ rm100.. all can tahan but not white.. dun expect HID's style wif below rm100.. dreaming kar?

last 3 days i went to my fren's shop located in bayu.. he let me test various kind of bulbs.. so far tried 2 oni n currently using 1 kind of bulb dunno wat brand/ name.. is cap ayam tat cost rm60.. installed on my accord wif additional relay n wiring to make it brighter.. but act like torchlight.. so i tried on my atoz.. damn kaw bright can beat philip.. i saw philip 1 b4 coz my frens also got ma.. somehow it got little yellowish also.. i dunno wat's wrong la but totally got nothing wrong wif the bulb.. atoz no need relay also bright liao.. i asked my fren if he knows .. he asked me to check my dynamo which i will do tomolo..

why dun u try the bulb on new car ?? if it's bright then something wrong wif ur car already.. my acoord install any bulb also not bright 1.. so i need to figure out wat's wrong.. my atoz install any bulb also damn kaw bright.. becoz it's new ar? dunno wor.. battery low power? still looking for solution..
 

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Amedion, atos is brighter because of the head light design. nothing to do with dynamo. If you check closely, the depth of the dish in the head light is not deep. Like kenari and kelisa, Kenari and kelisa is bright because u can see the bulb directly so it will be brighter compare to head light that has deeper dish.

I have test it before. use Raybrig 5k HID look bulb in atos so damn bright.
When i bought back my 206 it also have the same bulb as my atos but its not as bright as the atos wan. so i thought because of different type bulb so take out and check also same. The brightness is also influence by the deep of the head light dish...
 

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last time i use a white light vost me bout rm96 then i use for 3 years until i sold my car off still very white.i use thoe cheap cannot tahan ler...
 

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yeah meh titanrev.. but honda city's light also quite bright i must say.. somemore the design of the headlight quite similiar to accord leh.. how come?? nvm then.. i'll get my dynamo checked by tomolo c if there's any improvement..

jz my opinion/suggestion.. dun buy bulb range rm45 n below.. get something like rm80~rm1xx... nego a bit n u can get around rm60.. cheers ...
 

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The bulb need to be dye blue in order to achieve white light. The darker the blue, the whiter the light it come out. BUT...the sacrifice is, the darker the dye makes the lumens of the bulbs lower, hence not as bright as those standard bulbs. There are some bulbs out there which I know does not use dye, the glass of the blub itself is blue, those bulbs will last longer, as the dye will not peel off. The bulbs lifespan will also last longer, because no coating is used.


Halogen bulbs like Polarg 5000k or Philips Diamond Vision however are able to project whiter light with a less blue glass. Basically the more accurate the filamen generate the maximum brightness at the rated watt, the filamen will produce a less yellowish light and it does not need a darker blue to get a white spectrum. But it needs very good QC as the tolerance of the filamen is lower against voltage fluctuations. With using less darker blue, the rated lumens of these bulbs is higher, means brighter on the road.
The Platinum bulb, I also try to sell before, but its not white so better to keep in my tong sampah. Try to look for Michiba, this brand H4 is very bright and white enough (but dun expect like HID white) when compare to many outside. Err....dun ask me now about mine, cos I still dun have stock and many are waiting too. If urgent, try shop, some might still have stocks.
 

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I also using cap ayam white bulb, buy it at brothers. Im not teasing you, but if i remember correctly, i bought mind for RM 8.90 only (during promotion). They test it for me at the counter and it show white light. When i install it to my car the light also white lah. If the light is white, it is white lah in whatever conditions. Use it for quite some time already and still working.

The problem with the light is if in road with lamp post lighting, it is like the light is not on at all, but use it in dark area it is very bright, even brighther then the original yellow bulb. I use blue color bulb for the small light, look nice. If you look into the head lamp with high light on, it is like the eye of my car with blue dot in the middlle. My car still beeming out white light also. I think your accessories shop only giving excuses, before i use the small blue bulb, i also use the small yellow bulb with my chap ayam bulb, also beem out white light from the head lamp.

Another problem with the white light is the light can't beem through fog area(when going up or down genting). Drive my father car with yellow light got better visibilities in fog area. Thinking to add fog lamp for my car already
 

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If ur headlamp cover is yellowish already, the light won't come out that white though, so not in whatever condition it will be white. Be careful with your bulb socket, check it periodically for crack or melting, if melt and short your car electrical circuit, it won't be Rm8.90 to repair. Haha....you never saw Michiba white bulbs in working condition before I presume. If you have a chance, take a look at it.

With lamp post lighting, for white lights, you will need a higher lumens bulb. However in foggy condition white bulbs will still loose to yellow bulbs. Its the nature of light reflection.
 

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hey, I just installed white lights too, a couple of days ago. I swapped to white at Kakimotor Sunway. Here's the deal, I bought "PIA2" brand lowlights, and they're really white, not a sign of yellow. Only cost me 20 bucks! 12V/45W if I'm not mistaken.

As for the foglights, I went for a MICHIBA brand, RM80. After installation, it looked the same as my old yellow ones... I was like... "wtf?!". The feller told me it would look a little yellow in the afternoon, and asked me to try at night again. He said I coull change them if they're not white. I tried at night, and he was right! They were damn white and super bright!

The guy at KM told me if I'm satisfied with the low's and fog's, then come back again to change the headlamps. Same price, MICHIBA RM80. Donno if I got conned on the price, but the lights are superb, no regrets. You guys should check it out!
 

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yalah, i kena con edi... :p
i got the 2 pc's Michiba fogs + pia2 low lamps for 100 buck, with installation.
 

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HMS said:
H1/H3/H4 all price is RM45 (can nego a bit) (55W/100W same price)

Rest model RM 60-80

3 months warranty for Michiba

however H1 installed on Waja, always got problem of burnt bulb. H1 not as white as H4 or H3.
Actually, i already add something to my car to allow it to install white bulb. But now take it out already, thinking to do rewiring for the fuse box cause quite old and quite messy. Now still at workshop doing engin conversion (cause engin condemmed, change to normal proton engin only).

So HMS, you open car acessory shop ah or you only provide MIchiba light bulb. Can the Michiba light bulb install to normal wiring ah, do i need to add realy or not, quite interested, maybe can ask you to fix fog light for my car also. Can recommend any brand or type for fog light (budget around RM 100)
 

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Use the 55W not need relay kit bro.

How to open acc shop, no money lar. Me trader oni, selling accesories and spareparts.
Around RM100 for fog light, hmm....I got a set fog light source from michiba too. Bright and lasting. Can sell to you at RM 100. But installation you have to do it your self or since now your car is transplanting, you can ask them to install the fog lamp one shot. Maybe they won't charge you leh.
 

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I mean the whole fog lamp, not just the bulb. the bulb is rm40 oni to all zth members. Other place I sell at around RM 45 - 48. Why here cheaper cos all zth members are very smart, want to make a bit more oso very tough leh :p

RM 100 is the fog lamp with standard michiba bulbs inside, wiring kit, switch and relays. The fog lamp is using H3 bulbs. Got round and oval shape.

Michiba 4350K H1/H4/H3 bulbs per box here i am selliing at RM 40 with 3 months warranty on burnt and discolouring. But pls dun make noise at shops outside cos I am not suppose to sell to users at RM40 leh, if not my supplier with tiu me.