My review on kumho ku36, and toyo r1r.

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hello motoring buddies....i would like to share my personal experience/review on both tyre as per title. :smokin: i know that there are tonnes of reviews on these tyres but what the heck.....this is my personal experience using them here locally on malaysian roads, malaysian weather,....and everything malaysian to it....hahaha.....

to begin with, my ride is a proton waja 1.6 campro manual with some malaysian mods here n there:biggrin:.....im currently on tein superstreet HLSF (8kg fr, 6kg rr), complete hard/polyurethane suspension bushings with related suspension strenghtening bars, etc.....my current wheels are rays te37 (15j x 6.5j x off+39) with complete gsr/evo brakes.

as for tyres, previously i was on kumho and now changed to toyo.... spec as below:

kumho ecsta xs ku36
size: 205/50/15
treadwear: 180
traction: A
temperature: A
price: rm300/pc
origin: korea
hot psi: 39
cold psi: 41

well, my review on the kumho would be that to me it is a superb poor man's neova (ad07, not ad08) as it behaves almost the same. traction in dry is at par and the sidewall is one of the hardest for street legat dot tyres allowed me to maneuver and change direction rapidly and do some insane G during hard cornering without any sign of slipping.....well, i did spun my car once coming down to toll jalan duta from jalan kuching but that was purely my technical fault as i had to slammed the brakes going in full blow WOT while in mid corner cos one lucky damn EX5 pancung right infront of me....(i would have killed u dude:thefinger:....whoever u are) due to that i also realised that the kumhos love extreme slip angle but it will not communicate to u it is losing grip until its too late (unlike neovas or potenzas which communicates better).....

in wet, it is much better than neova ad07 but still require extra care due to the large tread pattern (in most case the same as others in the same category) but driving in the wet is still pleasant enough if u re not going at ridicoulous speed....

as for the tread wear, the kumho was superb to me as i managed to get est30,000kms out of it....considering i daily drive n do WOT at every gear most of the time.... all in all, i would buy this tyre again and again........ the only prob is that the stock.... dunno why but its kinda hard to get hold of these tyres lately........


toyo proxes r1-r
size: 195/55/15
treadwear: 140
traction: AA
temperature: A
price: rm370/pc
origin: japan
hot psi: 37
cold psi: 39-40

just got my new tyres 2 days ago an still tyring to run few heat cycles into it. so far so good but my car is feeling slightly wobbly....maybe cos less wider than the kumho with taller stance.... the r-compound grips better than the kumho but sidewall is softer....

well, i have yet to hantam this babes but i will be sure to do so once i have complete the heat cycle run-ins.....managed to drive them in the extreme wet last night and i was impressed:biggrin:.....it handles like a michelin pp2 in wet.... maybe cos still lotsa thread..heheh.....the only thing i notice driving to work this morning is that they are much2 noisier than the kumhos with weird humming tone coming into the cabin.....but i can still live with it as my RO exhaust set-up is really2 noisy.....

well, ill be sure to update from time to time....stay logged in bros:listen:...
 

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anyone with similar experience using these babes? maybe on diff cars/engines/sizes?
 

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im interested to know of a comparison betweeen KU36 vs Potenza RE001 or RE002
 

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bro im using r1r in my hyundai getz b4 195/55/r15 on dry is super grip on par with the advan neova :)fast cornering no problems :) but in wet carefull after about 50% is damn horrible.... tread wear very fast if u everyday wreak it XD
 

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wow bro you really used those ku36 kaw kaw before change. hehehe. i think you can update your review after using the r1r longer.. now still new so not entirely accurate assessment.
 

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im interested to know of a comparison betweeen KU36 vs Potenza RE001 or RE002
I've used AD07, RE01R, R888, now on T1R and planning to opt for either Federal 595 RS-R or Federal FZ-202. However unable to gather sufficient reviews on both tires. Thus am thorn on which tire to purchase. Maybe I'll keep my option open for KU36 perhaps..
 

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im interested to know of a comparison betweeen KU36 vs Potenza RE001 or RE002
FYI, im using re001 for my rear 205/55/15.... all i can say it is a wonderful all round street tyre... able to accomodate for normal to extreme driver.....on the STREET... but once u bring it to track they kinda rubbish..... as they warm up to quickly after few laps, you'll be seeing ur lap time go down n down n down.....all u hear is the tyres screamingggggggggggg for traction......muahahah quite scary n fun if u know what u re doing.... well ku36 not as comfortable as re001 but grip better in dry n more noisy once it starts to wear off..... also a bald potenza re001 grip sucks, but ku36 as they become bald they grip even better, just like true semis......

nice review bro! :rock:
thanks bro.... stay tuned as i will update more.... but it seems that this few days asyik hujan jek....:banghead:

wow bro you really used those ku36 kaw kaw before change. hehehe. i think you can update your review after using the r1r longer.. now still new so not entirely accurate assessment.
yeah bro.... used it kaw2..... loved every moment of it...... give the toyos few heat cycles then should be even better but the sidewall is still soft to me....should've got the r888 instead, even though it is definitely heavier than the r1r or the ku36....heheheh:rofl:

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I've used AD07, RE01R, R888, now on T1R and planning to opt for either Federal 595 RS-R or Federal FZ-202. However unable to gather sufficient reviews on both tires. Thus am thorn on which tire to purchase. Maybe I'll keep my option open for KU36 perhaps..
nice bro....595-rsr is good for both dry n wet, somesay even better than r1r or re11......definitely worth buying but problem is the after sales service n quality of the manufacturer....some reported that their rsr sidewall got bloated / kembung after 2-3 serious heat cycles..... and when u wanna change it it is very difficult.... retails at rm360-380 per pc...... the fz-202 isnt advisable to be used as a daily driven and in the wet..... the wear should also be quick.... almost similar to potenza re55s... better make the right decision to suit your needs....:smokin:
 

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FYI, im using re001 for my rear 205/55/15.... all i can say it is a wonderful all round street tyre... able to accomodate for normal to extreme driver.....on the STREET... but once u bring it to track they kinda rubbish..... as they warm up to quickly after few laps, you'll be seeing ur lap time go down n down n down.....all u hear is the tyres screamingggggggggggg for traction......muahahah quite scary n fun if u know what u re doing.... well ku36 not as comfortable as re001 but grip better in dry n more noisy once it starts to wear off..... also a bald potenza re001 grip sucks, but ku36 as they become bald they grip even better, just like true semis......
thanks... this is basically wat i wanna hear... especially about the track part...

was looking for tires for daily and still be able to handle the track. guess its KU36 then...:thefinger:
 

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the KU36 is definitely the best bang-for-buck performance tire. at RM500/pc for 225/45/17, its definitely the best overall street tire especially if you track your car.

however, may not be the best choice for those concerned with thread wear and wet grip.
 

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thanks... this is basically wat i wanna hear... especially about the track part...

was looking for tires for daily and still be able to handle the track. guess its KU36 then...:thefinger:

well, depending on your budget.....
kumho is the cheapest with performance to match, but not true semis, means that in track you will still lose to true semis....
ad08/re11/r888 is better than ku36, given price isnt an issue as they are expensive rubbers with short lifespan....
federal rsr is also a viable choice but comes with its own problems too....heheheh.....
older re01r/ad07 are cheaper but hard to get now and mostly used tyres.....maybe no longer suitable to be abuse.....takut pecah/koyak during top speed runs....... mati weyyyyyy:banghead:

now what:confused:

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bro im using r1r in my hyundai getz b4 195/55/r15 on dry is super grip on par with the advan neova :)fast cornering no problems :) but in wet carefull after about 50% is damn horrible.... tread wear very fast if u everyday wreak it XD
hahahah thanks for the info bro....how many kms already u have used your r1r? how much tread still left? how does it behave now? based on what u said in the wet its horrible....but should get better n better in dry rite? lose some n win some?:biggrin:
 

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federal rsr is also a viable choice but comes with its own problems too....heheheh.....
i dunno much abt federal tires... wat kinda problems u talking about?
 

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bro im using r1r in my hyundai getz b4 195/55/r15 on dry is super grip on par with the advan neova :)fast cornering no problems :) but in wet carefull after about 50% is damn horrible.... tread wear very fast if u everyday wreak it XD
i dunno much abt federal tires... wat kinda problems u talking about?
595-rsr is good for both dry n wet, somesay even better than r1r or re11......definitely worth buying but problem is the after sales service n quality of the manufacturer....some reported that their rsr sidewall got bloated / kembung after 2-3 serious heat cycles.....:hmmmm: and when u wanna change it it is very difficult....(warranty wise)
 

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nice bro....595-rsr is good for both dry n wet, somesay even better than r1r or re11......definitely worth buying but problem is the after sales service n quality of the manufacturer....some reported that their rsr sidewall got bloated / kembung after 2-3 serious heat cycles..... and when u wanna change it it is very difficult.... retails at rm360-380 per pc...... the fz-202 isnt advisable to be used as a daily driven and in the wet..... the wear should also be quick.... almost similar to potenza re55s... better make the right decision to suit your needs....:smokin:
No kidding?! Bloated sidewalls?! Bad after sales service?! WTH?! Haiya Taiwan tires... Thanks for the info man...
 

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No kidding?! Bloated sidewalls?! Bad after sales service?! WTH?! Haiya Taiwan tires... Thanks for the info man...
yeah, but bear in mind that im not comdemning the whole federal range, it could be that particular batch of production, or just that particular size (15 inch).....in which case i dare not conclude.... but the after sale service such as claiming for warranty n replacement was pain in the a$$.......:smokin:
 

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Claiming time, all the same. My friend had problems claiming from Michelin and another from GY.
 

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of coz,claiming tire is problem for all brand tire i think.depend how u talk about problem or who u meet up?for me,i never been in claim tire so am not sure it really very hard to claim if new tire we just few week buy got problem like ....what problem u mean?
 

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of coz,claiming tire is problem for all brand tire i think.depend how u talk about problem or who u meet up?for me,i never been in claim tire so am not sure it really very hard to claim if new tire we just few week buy got problem like ....what problem u mean?
When doing tyre claim, try to do personally. No point going through the tyre shop or dealer. Most probably will reject.
If tyre have bulge go directly to the manufacturer service center. I think most of them have. I have been to the Dunlop one, long ago before Conti or Sime bought them over.
They will inspect the whole wheel, means tyre and rim. They look for rim damage, scratches etc. and tyre damage, like scratches, curbing etc. If nothing is found they will remove the tyres from the rim and inspect inside. In this case probably they will allow claim since cannot find damages.
They will then measure the lowest part of the thread pattern and that is your claim amount. Probably will issue you a voucher for you to change tyres at a dealer or tyre shop. Say if claim is 60% then you go and change tyres and pay 40%. If you don't like that tyre brand already, negotiate with tyre shop for other brands but ask them to make use of the claim voucher, then pay the difference....:biggrin:
 

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how about Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3..?
wet and dry grip..?
read from other forum grip while going downhill is x so good.. x sure wet @ dry..
any experience from others..
 

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why cat claim new tire?still wan askin us pay the tire thread we have use b4...?
If tyre new, they give new tyre, but most of the time tyre already used for some time, so they give claim according to thread balance....

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how about Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3..?
wet and dry grip..?
read from other forum grip while going downhill is x so good.. x sure wet @ dry..
any experience from others..
I had the chance to use the German Made GS-D3 last time and it was fantastic in the wet, but for aquaplaning resistance that is. For wet traction and cornering, slightly on the poorer side but not bad. Not too sure of the Thai made ones.
However this tyre is being replaced by the GY F1 D5 (Directional 5)
 

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If tyre new, they give new tyre, but most of the time tyre already used for some time, so they give claim according to thread balance....

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I had the chance to use the German Made GS-D3 last time and it was fantastic in the wet, but for aquaplaning resistance that is. For wet traction and cornering, slightly on the poorer side but not bad. Not too sure of the Thai made ones.
However this tyre is being replaced by the GY F1 D5 (Directional 5)
gsd3 n gsd5 is an all rounder daily use tyre where it will give you pretty much what you need in all areas (traction in dry n wet, comfort n noise level, etc), FYI there are better all rounder tyres in the market from diff manufacturer too.....
 

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GS-D3 tyres are pretty noisy when worn and becomes uneven.
F1 D5, not GS-D5 are new. Aquaplaning resistance is not that good over GS-D3 but improved in ride comfort and dry traction....
 

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as for me I've used R1R,Pirelli Pzero Rosso and currently running on Potenza RE001 on my PV6 all this years. all are in 215/45/17

R1R...basically gives u good grip while they are in their new condition but extremely dangerous in wet when they nearing their other 50% lifespan.
Pzero Rosso.....nuthing much as it mets its expectation....damm nice rubbers nice handling,good grip,but wear out very fast.
Potenza RE001...oni a month old....a lil bit bumpy n noisy..but seems never dissapoint me....:driver:
 

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The Toyo seems to be like this, even the T-1R that I use before.
One month old RE-001, but RE-002 already out......??
 

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yes..make sure u get new tire...or u get more discount if u give old tire..last year tire..check or telling boss,u wan new tire..2011 week almost 35 i think...so u will get 3511 number in tire..maybe u know to check it out right...
 

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Usually, the tyre shop people by hook or by crook will try to get rid of the old tyres at higher price. Once they find out customer knows how to see they will change stories.
Older tyres that can be used like more then 1 year old, ask for more discount as if like consumer goods reaching expiry date......:biggrin:
 

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yes..still can accept old tire but in reasonable price askin more discount from them.unless for ppl who dunno about it...really kena potong by them.
getting old tire in new tire price...always check tire all which they drop out for u first,make sure all tire is same date...unless u talk with boss already that u accept old tire in cheaper price...i kena once as staff give me a old tire...after knowin i am know.they change story...most important is price also drop..and i accept it.
 

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Cannot lari already, since you know. Either they remove and fit new one or give discount.....:biggrin:
 

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I plan to replace my rear tyre using either this both tyre Toyo R1R or Kumho K36. I get both used at 60% treadware at same price. So which 1 should i choose?. I'm not into track and will be using as daily drive.
 

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I plan to replace my rear tyre using either this both tyre Toyo R1R or Kumho K36. I get both used at 60% treadware at same price. So which 1 should i choose?. I'm not into track and will be using as daily drive.
Why used extreme tyres if only using for daily drives?
 

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I've used R1Rs previously, now I'm looking for something that won't hurt my wallet as much. Any recommendations for sub RM300? Can get KU36 at that price? It's for 195/55/R15.

What's the closet tire under Max Performance that I can go for that is near Extreme tire?

Btw, Quicksave is selling 195/55/R15. AD08R at 360 per pc. Limited stock though..so if interested better hurry!

Daily drive don't go all out loh! Use in track.....:driver::biggrin:
R1R as a daily ok leh...not that bad. But if you see rain, better go to left lane siap2...haha
 
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I've used R1Rs previously, now I'm looking for something that won't hurt my wallet as much. Any recommendations for sub RM300? Can get KU36 at that price? It's for 195/55/R15.
KU36 only has 205/50 for 15"... the prices now are around 320-360... when first came out RM280 only

perhaps try looking into Champiro SX2... was recently launched sub RM300... not sure if price gone up.
 

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KU36 only has 205/50 for 15"... the prices now are around 320-360... when first came out RM280 only

perhaps try looking into Champiro SX2... was recently launched sub RM300... not sure if price gone up.
In that case, have to rule out KU36 then...haha
 

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got my ku36 yesterday..205/50/15..rm 295 :proud:
 

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KU36 only has 205/50 for 15"... the prices now are around 320-360... when first came out RM280 only

perhaps try looking into Champiro SX2... was recently launched sub RM300... not sure if price gone up.
The SX2 are 195/50R15. 195/55R15 coming later....

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I've used R1Rs previously, now I'm looking for something that won't hurt my wallet as much. Any recommendations for sub RM300? Can get KU36 at that price? It's for 195/55/R15.

What's the closet tire under Max Performance that I can go for that is near Extreme tire?

Btw, Quicksave is selling 195/55/R15. AD08R at 360 per pc. Limited stock though..so if interested better hurry!



R1R as a daily ok leh...not that bad. But if you see rain, better go to left lane siap2...haha
The BS RE-002 are close but they are expensive also....:banghead:

My friend on Evo X that came with Dunlop SP600 complain he can only drive at 80kph when raining. Finally call me up, then recommend him GY Asy2. Love them until the PSS came out. Now on those....:driver:

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got my ku36 yesterday..205/50/15..rm 295 :proud:
Fuyoh! Good size for 195/55R15 upgrade....:burnout:
 

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The BS RE-002 are close but they are expensive also....:banghead:

My friend on Evo X that came with Dunlop SP600 complain he can only drive at 80kph when raining. Finally call me up, then recommend him GY Asy2. Love them until the PSS came out. Now on those....:driver:
GY F1 Asy2? Should be 18" above only right?

RE002 > RE05? Both are under Max right? Seriously pening with BS line up (is that a pun?lol)

How about PS3? I'm seriously considering them to replace the R1Rs. Should be available under RM300 right?
 

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GY F1 Asy2? Should be 18" above only right?

RE002 > RE05? Both are under Max right? Seriously pening with BS line up (is that a pun?lol)

How about PS3? I'm seriously considering them to replace the R1Rs. Should be available under RM300 right?
Yes, my friend's Evo X on 18".

RE-001 and replacement RE-002 should be under UHP. RE-050 is Max.
However RE-001 and 002 does not seems to exist overseas. RE-001 I found under RE-760 having same pattern.

PS3 feedback having very good dry and wet traction and handling, however many from extreme going to this, complain about soft sidewall. Have to pump up the air pressure then giving them bumpy right.
Not the same type of handling especially in corners.
 

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Yes, my friend's Evo X on 18".

RE-001 and replacement RE-002 should be under UHP. RE-050 is Max.
However RE-001 and 002 does not seems to exist overseas. RE-001 I found under RE-760 having same pattern.

PS3 feedback having very good dry and wet traction and handling, however many from extreme going to this, complain about soft sidewall. Have to pump up the air pressure then giving them bumpy right.
Not the same type of handling especially in corners.
Ah...thanks for the info. Very helpful. Could a lower profile size help in this regard i.e going for 195/50/R15?

Any max tires with hard sidewall? Hankook S1 Evo/Evo2 are not available in 15" right? How about Federal?
 

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found this on Racing Art FB... after some googling... seems to be pretty decent... anyone has any reviews? seems pretty bang for buck