Mivec 4G93 - feeling of impact (hesitate/sag) when decelerating. PLS HELP!!

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My mivec have the feeling of impact (hesitate/sag) when decelerating
(when rpm drop till around 1300-1000 ),
If I engage the clutch or accelerate, it's ok.
especially at 1st gear, feel like someone bang me for behind

did anyone having this problem before?
PLS HELP!!

TQ
 

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My mivec have the feeling of impact (hesitate/sag) when decelerating
(when rpm drop till around 1300-1000 ),
If I engage the clutch or accelerate, it's ok.
especially at 1st gear, feel like someone bang me for behind

did anyone having this problem before?
PLS HELP!!

TQ
Can you provide how your 'rojak' work ? e.g detail modification or mix match of engine, piston, manifold, gearbox, ecu, wiring etc....
 

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you mean it jerks very violently forward when decelerating?
yes..it has a feeling of violently forward when rpm drop till around 1300

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Decelerate in 1st gear??
yup..when traffic jam or wanna slow down
decelerate and rpm drop till around 1300 it happen
1st gear is more obvious

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Can you provide how your 'rojak' work ? e.g detail modification or mix match of engine, piston, manifold, gearbox, ecu, wiring etc....
4g93 block, open pod air filter, 2.3" piping, s flow exhaust

others all stock 4g92 mivec

this problem happened also before i change 4g93 block
 

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yup..when traffic jam or wanna slow down
decelerate and rpm drop till around 1300 it happen
1st gear is more obvious
Not sure what you mean? When decelerating how you manage to put into 1st gear?:smokin:
Unless you mean accelerating??:confused:
 

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Not sure what you mean? When decelerating how you manage to put into 1st gear?:smokin:
Unless you mean accelerating??:confused:
Like release the gas padel while driving (with gear engage), when rpm drop till around 1300, feel a impact.
At 1st gear is most obvious (bang harder)
 

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Sounds like cluth kick. Haha! It sounds like a problem with the clutch, like when you don't control the clutch properly and it suddenly bites. I dunno man. Maybe Mivec has something special that other GB don't have
 

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Sounds like cluth kick. Haha! It sounds like a problem with the clutch, like when you don't control the clutch properly and it suddenly bites. I dunno man. Maybe Mivec has something special that other GB don't have
Mivec actually nothing special
MIVEC is (Mitsubishi Innovative Valve timing Electronic Control system) is the brand name of a variable valve timing (VVT) engine technology developed by Mitsubishi Motors. Different manufacturer name theirs differently ...:biggrin:

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Like release the gas padel while driving (with gear engage), when rpm drop till around 1300, feel a impact.
At 1st gear is most obvious (bang harder)
In that case I suspect fuel feed problem since you mentioned acceleration time is no problem. When decelerate fuel should be cut so that engine slows down. If fuel still going in then cut at inconsistent rate then the feeling of the jerk.
If you step on the pedal then release then step on the pedal then release again continuously you will get the same effect, right?:smokin:
 

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Fueling! Good point. Perhaps it's a simple matter of changing the fuel filter since Mivecs are ancient.
 

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nahhhhh.. first of all...after that rojak mod...what kind of brain the engine has?

stock mivec ecu?? sure it wont run perfectly since the engine displacement higher and dynamic different needs different mapping to suits...


solve that first and u should be good to go
 

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Mivec actually nothing special
MIVEC is (Mitsubishi Innovative Valve timing Electronic Control system) is the brand name of a variable valve timing (VVT) engine technology developed by Mitsubishi Motors. Different manufacturer name theirs differently ...:biggrin:

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In that case I suspect fuel feed problem since you mentioned acceleration time is no problem. When decelerate fuel should be cut so that engine slows down. If fuel still going in then cut at inconsistent rate then the feeling of the jerk.
If you step on the pedal then release then step on the pedal then release again continuously you will get the same effect, right?:smokin:
U r right

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Fueling! Good point. Perhaps it's a simple matter of changing the fuel filter since Mivecs are ancient.
Oh yah! could be clogged fuel filter also.....hahaha:biggrin:

I changed fuel filter since 1.5 years back
After change still the same, only more serious recently

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nahhhhh.. first of all...after that rojak mod...what kind of brain the engine has?

stock mivec ecu?? sure it wont run perfectly since the engine displacement higher and dynamic different needs different mapping to suits...


solve that first and u should be good to go
I have this problem also before change the block
Before it was stock Mivec 1.6
only open pod air filter, piping and exhaust changed
 

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I think the best way to troubleshoot this is to experience it. We're guessing too much here.

Oh and there's still the possibility of fueling issues, specifically the fuel pump or injectors.
 

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Agree, have to trouble shoot one by one since TS seems to have done some of our suggestions already and ours mostly guess work....
 

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I think the best way to troubleshoot this is to experience it. We're guessing too much here.

Oh and there's still the possibility of fueling issues, specifically the fuel pump or injectors.
Agree, have to trouble shoot one by one since TS seems to have done some of our suggestions already and ours mostly guess work....
How can I check both condition?
Or need to replace it and test?
 

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reset TPS position already yet/ (or recalibrate the tps reading first)
 

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reset TPS position already yet/ (or recalibrate the tps reading first)
The tps is 0.5v when throtle body close…is it correct?
How to reset/calibrate the tps?
 

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The tps is 0.5v when throtle body close…is it correct?
How to reset/calibrate the tps?
loosen the tps screw...then adjust it...cw/ ccw... to 05-0.6-0.7v...dun remember la
but from my experience...the problem when u touch the tps is when acccelarating 1000-1500 rpm
got jerking between that
then after calibrate tps...ok la
 

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loosen the tps screw...then adjust it...cw/ ccw... to 05-0.6-0.7v...dun remember la
but from my experience...the problem when u touch the tps is when acccelarating 1000-1500 rpm
got jerking between that
then after calibrate tps...ok la
0.5v is ok then right?
Should i need to calibrate again?
 

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set wot at highest 5v first...then check lowest value....

test drive... if not set 0.3v (or lowest possible) then compare at WOT if it gave 5v to make sure there is no performance loss
 

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i have check the voltage for the tps,
throttle close-0.5v, throttle open-4.9+v
is it ok?
 

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i have check the voltage for the tps,
throttle close-0.5v, throttle open-4.9+v
is it ok?
should be ok....or try slightly lower max value around 4.7v
 

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coasting setting? but ecu is stock right?

hmmm, what cause engine braking...too much...
Yes…stock ecu

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Since you are still having the problem, no harm trying or testing different settings....:driver:
What's the range for the tps value?
 

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so...how?...dh try??
or...maybe the problem not from tps
 

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adjusted to 0.4v when closed
same also..sigh~
 

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or worst case...ecu internal capacitor leaks....

but there is plenty of ecu guys can do replacement on that capacitor....
 

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Technician also can fix if really capacitor problem. Take out and replace with same unit....:driver:
for hardcore DIY fan sure can :biggrin:
 

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I've interchange the ecu before..
The problem still remain