How to you prevent buying an "Fake" engine oil?

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What is the brand do you think most will be using as a fake engine oil? Where do you normally buy your engine oil? Please share your opionion :)

Below are some news of fake oil (Sorry news are in chinese)



■ 陈进松(左一)展示劣等润滑油从铝珍倒入名牌润滑油出售。在场者左二起依祖汀、副执法主任阿斯旺阿立芬及阿斯旺依斯迈。
translate : Showing the bad quality oil from aluminium tin mix into branded bottle for sale.


■ 执法组展示起获的劣等润滑油。
(居林18日讯)劣等润滑油以名牌润滑油出售,从中牟取多倍的盈利。
translate: Bad quality oil in aluminium tin.


Translate : Showing all the branded empty bottle ready to fill with bad quality oil


Translate : Special tools to re-wrapping the bottle opener so it looks like brand new engine oil bottle.
 
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ouch. major brands where u could find everywhere. im screwed :frown:
 

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Hypermarkets and Tesco, Carrefour are fine. They ship their oils from overseas and being as large as they are, they cannot afford any legal issues with selling fake oils as they have a reputation to maintain.

Petrol stations selling their own brand of oils is safe too.

Lastly make friends with your local spare parts shop and buy everything from them except oil. Once you've built up a good friendship with them, you can ask more about their oils and where they source their oils from. Most shops that I've come across sell only ori but you'll never know.
 

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nowadays, engine oil all recycled .. right?
 

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nowadays, engine oil all recycled .. right?
Not really leh....as you can see from this news, some black shops just simply bought some cheap unknown brand oil and fill into branded oil bottle...you never know where the oil are made from...



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Maybe buying some other brand that not so famous at the market here can help too, like badhal, ajip, etc, less people wanna imitating those brand :P
 

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once bought castrol magnatec from a sparepart shop... lucky my pomen like to feel the engine oil a bit before pouring it... he says it felt 'thinner'

pour it into a container, it is kinda 'thinner'... we compare it with a leftover magnatec...

drove back to the sparepart shop, and the shop gave me the real one. They also say that if want original must quote "yang bagus punya" then you get original :hmmmm:

now, i'm just using "M Power" brand that my pomen is selling in his shop. relatively unknown, but so far so good... felt the same when using eneos oil a while back...
 

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nowadays, engine oil all recycled .. right?
Not really. Mobil has this one particular brand oil that they declare is recycled oil, some sort of 'green' oil. I forgot which one already but it's not available in KL. The rest are refined and mixed fresh from the oven (so to speak). In certain countries Oil companies are required to declare that their oil is recycled.
 
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ouch. major brands where u could find everywhere. im screwed :frown:
When they want to make fake, sure copy major brand loh! If unknown brand how to sell?

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Not really. Mobil has this one particular brand oil that they declare is recycled oil, some sort of 'green' oil. I forgot which one already but it's not available in KL. The rest are refined and mixed fresh from the oven (so to speak). In certain countries Oil companies are required to declare that their oil is recycled.
As far as I know, recycle oil is okay as long as they refine them and add back the additives. Most just filter them and repack.....:banghead:

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Hypermarkets and Tesco, Carrefour are fine. They ship their oils from overseas and being as large as they are, they cannot afford any legal issues with selling fake oils as they have a reputation to maintain.

Petrol stations selling their own brand of oils is safe too.

Lastly make friends with your local spare parts shop and buy everything from them except oil. Once you've built up a good friendship with them, you can ask more about their oils and where they source their oils from. Most shops that I've come across sell only ori but you'll never know.
Or direct from distributors like Pennzoil warehouse sale. I even got some direct from the oil blenders...:biggrin:
 

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all the workshop i've seen collect used oil & sell it to 'recycler'

if calculated, there're tons of recycled oil out there..

where does the oil goes? i'm sure it's not dump to some unknown places.. :hmmmm2:
 

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all the workshop i've seen collect used oil & sell it to 'recycler'

if calculated, there're tons of recycled oil out there..

where does the oil goes? i'm sure it's not dump to some unknown places.. :hmmmm2:
Next time must remember to ask my mechanic, see if he knows where it goes to. Of course definitely not dumped as collector have to pay for it
 

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anyone remember that 2 - 3 years back there's a campaign that requires us to slash or 'mutilate' engine oil bottle... the reason being, if the all used bottles are damaged then they can't use them to sell recycle oil in it

one of mech in my area still practices this, although he also sells his used oil to 'recycler'
 

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Some said that put your engine oil in freezer, good quality oil tend to need longer time to freeze, I am not sure how much time is consider longer ? :P
 

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But hor, got 1 time I bought Shell Helix Semi @ Tesco Paradigm, I bought 1L per bottle one, total 4 bottles. When send car to service, foreman open the cap, and asked why the oil bottle dont have alumimium foil wrap at the opening there? That's mean after open the plastic cap, directly you can see the oil inside ><


I also dont know why, normally bottle there got the aluminium look a like foil wrapping one right?

sample of what I mean:
 

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The source is they buying old/used oil( those oils mix with clutch, brake, engine, gear, ATF etc) in metal barrel from workshops and re-processed it after collecting all used container. Put some coloring, then pack as genuine. But usually their packing looks funny and u can see a lot of dirty residue at bottom of the bottles
 

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im using eneos engine oil..
just bought at eneos shop at one utama (only buy the engine oil, others expensive meh)..
and bring it to others workshop to change my oils, 'upah' only rm10..
hehehe
 

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But hor, got 1 time I bought Shell Helix Semi @ Tesco Paradigm, I bought 1L per bottle one, total 4 bottles. When send car to service, foreman open the cap, and asked why the oil bottle dont have alumimium foil wrap at the opening there? That's mean after open the plastic cap, directly you can see the oil inside ><


I also dont know why, normally bottle there got the aluminium look a like foil wrapping one right?

sample of what I mean:
If not mistaken, EU oil means those from Tesco, Carrefour do not have the plastic seal inside....
 

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But hor, got 1 time I bought Shell Helix Semi @ Tesco Paradigm, I bought 1L per bottle one, total 4 bottles. When send car to service, foreman open the cap, and asked why the oil bottle dont have alumimium foil wrap at the opening there? That's mean after open the plastic cap, directly you can see the oil inside ><


I also dont know why, normally bottle there got the aluminium look a like foil wrapping one right?

sample of what I mean:
yalo yalo. The shell helix ultra don't have any aluminium seal which i bought from tesco during their promotion. But so far so good, I've used 4bottles so far and still got 4 bottles left.