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may i know pro & con using 6jj instead of 6.5jj sifu?
Rims no sifu lah.. Anyway for 6J and 6.5J to me no difference for 195 size tyres as both sizes are recommended. Only when the rims are too narrow like 5J then the tyres gets squeeze. When this happens the tyre contact surface not flat on the ground. And when the rims are too wide, say like 7.5J then the tyre sidewall gets stretched. When this happens the sidewall less flex and tyre contact surface more to the edge, meaning the shoulder pattern will wear first
 

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6.5j is better fitment coz it's more square or equal to the tire width. If 6j then the rim will look narrower than the tire width and therefore also will have a bit more flexing.
thanks 6UE5t & sifu vr2tubro. but using 6.5jj means a bit more FC compare to 6jj right? is the FC is negligible or noticeable between these 2 rims width?

another question i would to ask is. about the 3% rule. currently using 175/65R14. for 15" option, printed on the driver's door is 185/55R15. so i would if changing to 195/50R15 is still abiding the 3% rules or not (as it is really hard to see UHP tires for 185/55R15 size - available option for this size only PS3, BS Potenza S001 & RE030).
 

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thanks 6UE5t & sifu vr2tubro. but using 6.5jj means a bit more FC compare to 6jj right? is the FC is negligible or noticeable between these 2 rims width?

another question i would to ask is. about the 3% rule. currently using 175/65R14. for 15" option, printed on the driver's door is 185/55R15. so i would if changing to 195/50R15 is still abiding the 3% rules or not (as it is really hard to see UHP tires for 185/55R15 size - available option for this size only PS3, BS Potenza S001 & RE030).
FC no difference between 6J and 6.5J. In fact the 3% rule plays more in fc if the tyres are too large, meaning diameter more than 3% bigger.
For your case, 185/55R15 is most ideal size being 0.24% bigger. However 195/50R15 is also ok, since is only 1.23% smaller.
Usually 3% ruling more toward a larger tyre, meaning 3% bigger. When the tyre diameter is too large, stopping a vehicle at high speed required more force and also might have problem with wheel arch clearance
 

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thanks 6UE5t & sifu vr2tubro. but using 6.5jj means a bit more FC compare to 6jj right? is the FC is negligible or noticeable between these 2 rims width?

another question i would to ask is. about the 3% rule. currently using 175/65R14. for 15" option, printed on the driver's door is 185/55R15. so i would if changing to 195/50R15 is still abiding the 3% rules or not (as it is really hard to see UHP tires for 185/55R15 size - available option for this size only PS3, BS Potenza S001 & RE030).
Go for 195/55/15, more choices than 185/55/15, the price is somewhat similar. Choice from PS3, RE003, V12EVO2, V701, T1R, F1D5, UC6 and etc
 

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For your case, 185/55R15 is most ideal size being 0.24% bigger. However 195/50R15 is also ok, since is only 1.23% smaller.
Usually 3% ruling more toward a larger tyre, meaning 3% bigger. When the tyre diameter is too large, stopping a vehicle at high speed required more force and also might have problem with wheel arch clearance
i see. so it means that later i need to be cautions cruising on the AES spot right? as 110 km/h reading on speedometer is actually higher that the display speed. am i right?

anyway sifu yesterday i whatsapp a mudah seller selling 2nd 15 inch rim (6.5jj) . he write his shop at bukit kemuning (not put shop name). at first glace i have feeling it is weng heng. so on the progress closing the deal, i decided to ask my friend to go & collect the rim at the shop. upon asking on the shop location what a suprise it is weng heng :laugh::laugh:

Go for 195/55/15, more choices than 185/55/15, the price is somewhat similar. Choice from PS3, RE003, V12EVO2, V701, T1R, F1D5, UC6 and etc
nope. i''m thinking on fitting 195/50R15 instead. but this size still have option like u said. PS3, RE003, F1D5, V12EVO2, V701, PS31 (for UHP category). but if going to 195/55R15, is it not exceed the 3% ruling? (50 profile might be slightly bumpy than 55 profile right?)
 

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i see. so it means that later i need to be cautions cruising on the AES spot right? as 110 km/h reading on speedometer is actually higher that the display speed. am i right?

anyway sifu yesterday i whatsapp a mudah seller selling 2nd 15 inch rim (6.5jj) . he write his shop at bukit kemuning (not put shop name). at first glace i have feeling it is weng heng. so on the progress closing the deal, i decided to ask my friend to go & collect the rim at the shop. upon asking on the shop location what a suprise it is weng heng :laugh::laugh:



nope. i''m thinking on fitting 195/50R15 instead. but this size still have option like u said. PS3, RE003, F1D5, V12EVO2, V701, PS31 (for UHP category). but if going to 195/55R15, is it not exceed the 3% ruling? (50 profile might be slightly bumpy than 55 profile right?)
If using 195/50R15, yes, speedo will show faster speed but very minimal like 2kph faster, since only 1.23% smaller.

Weng Heng is okay. Tyre price is cheap, just be careful of his camber nut tactic or he try to ask you add this and that.....lol

195/55R15 do not exceed 3%, actual is 2.13% bigger. Between 50 and 55, there is always pros and cons. Basically more on ride comfort and handling. 50 better handling, less flex, more bumpy. 55 better comfort, more flex, less handling.....
 

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Weng Heng is okay. Tyre price is cheap, just be careful of his camber nut tactic or he try to ask you add this and that.....lol
i just purchase the 2nd hand rim only (need to hurry UP. coz only weng heng selling vios original rim with 6.5jj). maybe if got extra money later will fit new tire . pokai already (early year spend so much money)

195/55R15 do not exceed 3%, actual is 2.13% bigger. Between 50 and 55, there is always pros and cons. Basically more on ride comfort and handling. 50 better handling, less flex, more bumpy. 55 better comfort, more flex, less handling.....
if aiming for handling, will sacrifice comfort & vice versa. even on 175/65R14 my wife complaining on bumpy (she is now 4 months pregancy). tayar already almost botak already. such a tough decision to make. either 50 or 55 :banghead::banghead::banghead:
 

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i just purchase the 2nd hand rim only (need to hurry UP. coz only weng heng selling vios original rim with 6.5jj). maybe if got extra money later will fit new tire . pokai already (early year spend so much money)



if aiming for handling, will sacrifice comfort & vice versa. even on 175/65R14 my wife complaining on bumpy (she is now 4 months pregancy). tayar already almost botak already. such a tough decision to make. either 50 or 55 :banghead::banghead::banghead:
Bumpy stock vios...thats a first time for me...
Vios is known as the master of numbness.
your tires could be too old and becomes hard or your tire pressure is way off.

Just get the 55, how much better of handling u expect on a 50? not much.
its a Vios after all.
 

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Bumpy stock vios...thats a first time for me...
Vios is known as the master of numbness.
your tires could be too old and becomes hard or your tire pressure is way off.
its a Vios after all.
my tires were purchase on around Q2 14. almost 5 years already. all 4 tires almost reachin TWI. anyway, i always keep the tire pressure around 200. another cause of bumpy maybe rear absorber soft already with bonet usually full of loads (i go back and forth seberang perai to jitra on weekend - friday night travel to jitra & sunday evening back to seberang perai). sitting at the back is just like sitting on the boat being hit by the waves lol my wife said. plus dont expect highway plus on northern is properly maintain. it is totally terrible with the speed just 120km/h
 

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i just purchase the 2nd hand rim only (need to hurry UP. coz only weng heng selling vios original rim with 6.5jj). maybe if got extra money later will fit new tire . pokai already (early year spend so much money)

if aiming for handling, will sacrifice comfort & vice versa. even on 175/65R14 my wife complaining on bumpy (she is now 4 months pregancy). tayar already almost botak already. such a tough decision to make. either 50 or 55 :banghead::banghead::banghead:
Since 14" tyre bald, right timing to change to 15". For Vios, 55 series will be better, and I think you need the comfort.....:driver:
 

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Since 14" tyre bald, right timing to change to 15". For Vios, 55 series will be better, and I think you need the comfort.....:driver:
the driver need handling but the rear passenger need comfort. since 3 passenger on the back. it is 3 against 1 vote :bawling::bawling: (normally cruising around 120-140kmh on plus highway.) so on 55 profile. it is actually is 2.13% bigger than 175/65R14 right?

upon checking. previously my vios was fitted with 185/65R14 (not 175/65R14 - default setup is 175. but i think my mom change to 185 on 2014). anyway, switching to 195/55R15 from 185/65R14 will not bring any different right? (total height for 195/55R15 is 23.44" while total height for 185/65R14 is 23.47")

If using 195/50R15, yes, speedo will show faster speed but very minimal like 2kph faster, since only 1.23% smaller.

195/55R15 do not exceed 3%, actual is 2.13% bigger. Between 50 and 55, there is always pros and cons. Basically more on ride comfort and handling. 50 better handling, less flex, more bumpy. 55 better comfort, more flex, less handling.....
so wonder la on current setup 185/65R14 speed on waze slower than speedo :banghead::banghead:
 

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get 55 profile. u not racing or corner like road runner.
u have the comfort.
my wira also on ps3 195/55 15. rim 6.5 j too.
yeah vr2turbo and 6ue5t really tyre sifu.
If on tight budget, rubber 1st priority. Rims 2nd.
 

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im confused....... in the case of 6j vs 6.5j rims, there should be no dif whatsoever to the fc at all?
**given the assumption that the tire itself is of the same width & the weight of the rims somehow remain a constant
 

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im confused....... in the case of 6j vs 6.5j rims, there should be no dif whatsoever to the fc at all?
**given the assumption that the tire itself is of the same width & the weight of the rims somehow remain a constant
uncle explain dy lah. u go read.
 

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the driver need handling but the rear passenger need comfort. since 3 passenger on the back. it is 3 against 1 vote :bawling::bawling: (normally cruising around 120-140kmh on plus highway.) so on 55 profile. it is actually is 2.13% bigger than 175/65R14 right?

upon checking. previously my vios was fitted with 185/65R14 (not 175/65R14 - default setup is 175. but i think my mom change to 185 on 2014). anyway, switching to 195/55R15 from 185/65R14 will not bring any different right? (total height for 195/55R15 is 23.44" while total height for 185/65R14 is 23.47")



so wonder la on current setup 185/65R14 speed on waze slower than speedo :banghead::banghead:
Usually if use 185 from 175/65R14 will be 185/60R14. Anyway, even though old tyre is 185/65R14, always work from OEM tyre size which is 175/65R14 to get your correct size upgrade.
 

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LS Monster read some, don't read some......hhahhahahhaha
ahh ok , no dif.. i read , theres magically a 3% dif in some way....... was racking my brains to figure out how it could be diferent given that the overall circumference and contact patch remain relatively the same
 

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ahh ok , no dif.. i read , theres magically a 3% dif in some way....... was racking my brains to figure out how it could be diferent given that the overall circumference and contact patch remain relatively the same
Only if the tyres differs......lol
 

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get 55 profile. u not racing or corner like road runner.
u have the comfort.
my wira also on ps3 195/55 15. rim 6.5 j too.
yeah vr2turbo and 6ue5t really tyre sifu.
If on tight budget, rubber 1st priority. Rims 2nd.
already put 55 profile on my vios. manage to get myvi baru advance 15 inch rim around & 4 pcs v12 evo2 donut for RM 1250. one side feel relieve as change the bald tire but during installation, i did notice the offset gap is more than i expected.

checking on the internet current 14 inch oem rim ET45. but on the rim itself is written 39. and at mudah the ads stating myvi baru 15 inch 6.5JJ ET40. but on the rim itself written 15x6J & 50 (mudah ads is published by different seller). it is about 10 mm in offset gap :banghead: so the staff there put 7mm spacer in front wheel coz the new rim already kena brake caliper lol :adore:

seems to be mudah ads sometimes can be misleading nowadays. earlier having this kind of situation which on yesterday was checking with weng heng staff. in the ads stating 15x6.5jj but upon checking for confirmation it is 15x5.5jj. just wondering how come the clearly printed on the inner side of the rim also can be overlook the number lol.

Usually if use 185 from 175/65R14 will be 185/60R14. Anyway, even though old tyre is 185/65R14, always work from OEM tyre size which is 175/65R14 to get your correct size upgrade.
sifu. i mean in term off driving experience should be not much different cause earlier the car was fitted with 185/65R14 especially speed at speedometer (since 195/55R15 is almost same with 185/65R14). but yes, in term of size upgrade, based on OEM tire size, it is still within 3% rule, which is 2.13% bigger like u mention earlier.

as new rim already fitted. it looks like the wheel abit going inside (rear tire) & my concern is on 7mm spacer. checking on the youtube see some videos telling using spacer is quite bad:bawling:.