Buying a BNR32 GTR

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Hi Guys,

I'm Brian, been owning and driving BMW's for many years, i'm 52 years old, recently i decided to go on the 'wild side' when a childhood buddy of mine offered me to buy his 1989 BNR32 GTR. (original, not a convert)

It looked like a great deal cos the car is stock standard and very very low mileage as the car is mostly garaged. Bodywork is excellent and straight with still the Gunmetal Grey. Car drives very well and undercarriage is very tight. Engine has no strange sounds when cold.

However the price is Rm95K for this beauty. I know this R32 GTR has a long history and a legend with a very rare status. But do give me your views if Rm95K is reasonable to buy.

I would really appreciate and value your views.
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1989 ?
the most early batch of GTR32

basically GTR32 is collection car now

pricing is determined on the car condition and how desperate you want it

it very very seldom you see a GTR32 for sale in malaysia market
 

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Hi Guys,

I'm Brian, been owning and driving BMW's for many years, i'm 52 years old, recently i decided to go on the 'wild side' when a childhood buddy of mine offered me to buy his 1989 BNR32 GTR. (original, not a convert)

It looked like a great deal cos the car is stock standard and very very low mileage as the car is mostly garaged. Bodywork is excellent and straight with still the Gunmetal Grey. Car drives very well and undercarriage is very tight. Engine has no strange sounds when cold.

However the price is Rm95K for this beauty. I know this R32 GTR has a long history and a legend with a very rare status. But do give me your views if Rm95K is reasonable to buy.

I would really appreciate and value your views.
Thanks
I'd do it in a heartbeat but having said that, the first batch of GTR32s will soon be eligible for classic car AP status. So keep that in mind.
 

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The BNR32 comes once in a blue moon only, very rare and u'd be lucky to find one on sale.

There's never a high side on the sale price of such collectibles. As a collector's car, the BNR32 only applies to those with enough ability and interest to plonk such monies.

Just to give u an idea, I bought mine at around 80k+ while another friend brought one from the UK which came around to close the amount landed.

I wouldn't say 95k is expensive for a BNR32 especially if the car is as straight as u mentioned. Perhaps as Malaysians we would traditionally try to bargain for a discount, but nevertheless you'd get a lot of car for even 95k.

Once u purchased ur BNR32, please join us for the Sunday uphill drives. Would love to see more BNR32s.. :top:

Where u at anyways?
 

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Hey thanks Guys for your speedy response ( just as quick as your Skylines ..haha)

cmng: yes it is the most early batch. And yes, i ve not seen an ori r32 GTR for sale for a long time.

elsm80: yes it soon will be eligible for classic car AP, but saying that, even the classic car AP anin't cheap, cos a friend of mine is in the midst of bringing in 2 American classics with classic car AP, its not really cheap. Anyway just like you mentioned " how desperate are you?"......

Temujin: Yes i would consider myself lucky as its from my childhood buddy who's been treasuring the car. And i do know the history of it, been fortunate to drive it when he owned it too.
I guess 95K is neither expensive nor cheap, its really whether you want to own this icon or not?

I would probably take the dive into the 'wild side' and experience what owning a r32 gtr is all about.
After all we live once only.....hahaha....
I'm from Melaka, but work is in KL, so some weekends are back to Melaka.

Thanks again guys for your input and will keep this updated.
Cheers
 

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fyi, im in the midst to bring in BNR32 either from japan or UK..but the price now days very2 expensive. After i calculate everything (landed) the total price for the said car close to RM 108!..and yes BNR32 is extremely rare spesis in market...somebody called me last week and he is looking for the said car and willing to pay more than rm110k!:nurse:

its hard cash and no loan anymore...:biggrin:
 

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I'd do it in a heartbeat but having said that, the first batch of GTR32s will soon be eligible for classic car AP status. So keep that in mind.
what is the impact of this Classic Car AP Status? does it mean any one can import 25 year old GTR32 without having to know datuks with APs?
 

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Hi brianj, based on the responses I would deduce that you have already decided to go for it. Would be excellent to have a look at the car once you have it. And welcome to Skyline ownership. :)
 

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Hi Brian, let me put it this way, my very close 'friend' owns a R32 GTR and he won't sell it for 1 sen less than RM150k. His car is not in good condition either.

Is this BNR32 previously owned by Tengku Mahaleel, ex-CEO of proton?
 

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what is the impact of this Classic Car AP Status? does it mean any one can import 25 year old GTR32 without having to know datuks with APs?
If I am not mistaken, Classic cars enjoy a lower customs and excise duty bracket.
 

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Gobiz, that crossed my mind too.
TM's car has an aftermarket exhaust and wheels.

So brianj, is this the No. 1991 BNR32?
 

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Just a note, R32 GTRs pre-1993 had a significant issue with the oil pump.

The crank has a narrow oil pump drive.
When revved to the rev limiter, there is a risk of crank vibrations causing excessive clearance in the oil pump drive. The repeated hammering can cause the oil pump gerotors to shatter.

Mind you, the risk is small but has occurred frequently enough to be widely talked about.

Do check the oil pressure (according to BNR32 workshop manual, should be 1.5 bar @ 800rpm, 3 bar @ 2000rpm and 4.6 bar @ 6000rpm at engine oil temperature 80Celcius) , or whether the engine has had a rebuild with a thick collar oil pump drive installed.
 

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Hi Guys,

I'm Brian, been owning and driving BMW's for many years, i'm 52 years old, recently i decided to go on the 'wild side' when a childhood buddy of mine offered me to buy his 1989 BNR32 GTR. (original, not a convert)

It looked like a great deal cos the car is stock standard and very very low mileage as the car is mostly garaged. Bodywork is excellent and straight with still the Gunmetal Grey. Car drives very well and undercarriage is very tight. Engine has no strange sounds when cold.

However the price is Rm95K for this beauty. I know this R32 GTR has a long history and a legend with a very rare status. But do give me your views if Rm95K is reasonable to buy.

I would really appreciate and value your views.
Thanks
Well, how passionate are you about GTRs? It's going to be quite a transition from years of BMW ownership to a Japanese car that is over two decades old. Regardless of how low the mileage is and whether its garaged all the time, bear in mind that there will be many things that need replacing. Don't worry about performance upgrades, there are many options for you be it wild or mild.

That aside, your main query is whether or not the car at RM95k is reasonable. Only you can answer that question because we have no idea how long your flirtation with the 'wild side' will last. If you're going to sell it in six months then obviously there are much better options out there that are more than adequate of giving you that adrenaline rush. But if its something that you are most likely to keep perhaps indefinitely then by all means go for it - we only live once! :driver:

It's obvious you can afford to buy it but before you do, how about you come to one of our gatherings or drives up to Goh Tong Jaya. I'm sure there will be no shortage of offers to ride shotgun and you'll be bombarded with more information that you'll know what to do with.

Oh, and you'll meet a bunch of great guys. Some aren't quite sane, bordering on psycho though. Most of us are somewhat younger but the great thing about Skyline owners is that age has never mattered. Look forward to meeting you. :wavey:

fyi, im in the midst to bring in BNR32 either from japan or UK..but the price now days very2 expensive. After i calculate everything (landed) the total price for the said car close to RM 108!..and yes BNR32 is extremely rare spesis in market...somebody called me last week and he is looking for the said car and willing to pay more than rm110k!:nurse:

its hard cash and no loan anymore...:biggrin:
Student AP? Anyway, the R32 isn't rare since they were the most produced out of all the modern Skylines.

what is the impact of this Classic Car AP Status? does it mean any one can import 25 year old GTR32 without having to know datuks with APs?
I'm curious how this would affect the R32 GTR market price too.

If I am not mistaken, Classic cars enjoy a lower customs and excise duty bracket.
How does it work do you know? Like criteria for application etc.

Temujin: can 34 join too...
Can bro, the R34s all bring up the rear because we kena tarpau with the Barneys :driver:
 

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Hey thanks very much guys for so much valuable input. I can see the passion you guys have in owning the skyline. To respond to some questions & input:

feezdya: Its great to know that people are still offering 110K. Looking fwd to your 'new' r32 on the way.

V-Spec: Thanks for the welcome, and yes i have decided to go for this Skyline that I'm now pursuing. The car is not #1991 :)

gobiz2: Thanks for the advice on the oil pump issue, i'll keep that on the very important list. Nope the car is not Tengku Mahaleel's. I do know his car but his is not in really good shape

[PIMPIN]: Hi thanks for your sharing. Well... lets put it this way.... my passion for the r32 Skylines began when i saw their performance at JTCC and Bathurst back in 1989, it was just awesome, nothing matched it. When i did want to go get myself a R32 gtr about 5 years back, it was almost impossible.
So now I'm exchanging my 1989 BMW E34 for a 1989 R32. No worries with old cars as I'm familiar with cranky old cars.
Anyway here's the link to my old BMW:

Why An Orange Thirty-4......

I guess i'll definitely be keeping this 32 for a long time. I'm planning to keep the engine mostly stock, no 'wild' mods. I think the stock is enough for this old man... haha...

I would definitely love to come join you guys for your drives one of these days. Looking forward to meeting up with the sane and not so sane.. :biggrin:

cheers