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I would like to know is that branded oil is a quality oil? How do we know?:burnout:
 

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Define "Quality"?

Penrite Australian oil FS range is a mix between PAO and Ester base oils.
Prince and Motul FS have "double ester" base oils.
Pennzoil FS is quite cheap and is OEM for Toyota.
Royal Purple has very good detergents in the oils.
Shell Helix is backed by Ferrari.
Mobil 1 is default pouring oil for Porsche.

So what do you mean by "quality"?
 

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Define "Quality"?

Penrite Australian oil FS range is a mix between PAO and Ester base oils.
Prince and Motul FS have "double ester" base oils.
Pennzoil FS is quite cheap and is OEM for Toyota.
Royal Purple has very good detergents in the oils.
Shell Helix is backed by Ferrari.
Mobil 1 is default pouring oil for Porsche.

So what do you mean by "quality"?
Royal Purple has very good cleaning detergents? :love:
 

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Exactly the question mr.izso posted. Hw do we define quality in this case? By driving experience or facts on paper? hehee.

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Yup. It's so good I know a guy who uses it as a flushing oil. Safer than using a chemical flush. But expensive like hell to use as a flush.
If afford cars like GTR35, RX-7, EVO, then using it to flush seems normal. If see a kancil using it as engine flushing oil. Something is not right :rofl: :biggrin:
 

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Exactly the question mr.izso posted. Hw do we define quality in this case? By driving experience or facts on paper? hehee.

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By the size of the cock that fits in the seller's mouth.

For example, JTX 1000 GOLD
Menjimatkan petrol 10%-20%, Meningkatkan kuasa enjin 20%-30%, Memanjangkan jangka hayat enjin

If it can increase engine power by 20%... why the fuck I go and turbocharge my boat? I must be stupid right? :stupid:

Proton Campro CFE only manage to increase HP by 25% over a normal Campro. No wonder Proton so damn sohai, they should have just poured JTX in!

Feel free to entertain yourself with the rubbish here
World's Best Lubricants jtx1000 Motor oil
 

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By the size of the cock that fits in the seller's mouth.

For example, JTX 1000 GOLD
Menjimatkan petrol 10%-20%, Meningkatkan kuasa enjin 20%-30%, Memanjangkan jangka hayat enjin

If it can increase engine power by 20%... why the fuck I go and turbocharge my boat? I must be stupid right? :stupid:

Proton Campro CFE only manage to increase HP by 25% over a normal Campro. No wonder Proton so damn sohai, they should have just poured JTX in!

Feel free to entertain yourself with the rubbish here
World's Best Lubricants jtx1000 Motor oil
JTX is just a MLM product... god's know where it is manufactured
 

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remembered it because its in the catalog in my wife misadventure into the world of MLM....

Previously, the company is popular with water filter and those slimmming and figure-shaping girdles and bras

For me, stick to the traditional brands.... they have the manufacturing capabilities with proven track records...
 

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If you really want to know it in white and black then dyno it.
That is true if its a race car. You know how often race cars rebuild their engines? After every race if the regulations allowed it.

How often you rebuild the engine in your car?

With the exception of Proton, you should always follow the manufacturer's recommended engine oil as outlined in the owner's manual. Most service centers will give you the engine oil they make the most profit margin on.
 

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Define "Quality"?

Penrite Australian oil FS range is a mix between PAO and Ester base oils.
Prince and Motul FS have "double ester" base oils.
Pennzoil FS is quite cheap and is OEM for Toyota.
Royal Purple has very good detergents in the oils.
Shell Helix is backed by Ferrari.
Mobil 1 is default pouring oil for Porsche.

So what do you mean by "quality"?
QUALITY means it can protect your engine just like mobil 1. i consider Mobil 1 as a quality standard.

How do you define quality?

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Royal Purple has very good cleaning detergents? :love:
Cleaning detergent is not good for engine for long term use. Is that true?
 

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QUALITY means it can protect your engine just like mobil 1. i consider Mobil 1 as a quality standard.

How do you define quality?

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Cleaning detergent is not good for engine for long term use. Is that true?
All engine oil protects your engine, just the matter of how fast it loses it properties.
Yes, cleaning detergent not good for long term use. But then VR2 turbo using diesel oil.
Diesel oil manyak clean.
 

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remembered it because its in the catalog in my wife misadventure into the world of MLM....

Previously, the company is popular with water filter and those slimmming and figure-shaping girdles and bras

For me, stick to the traditional brands.... they have the manufacturing capabilities with proven track records...
- people who believe in MLM product
- people who don't believe in MLm product
- People who just believe Malaysia product\
- People who just believe US product
- People who just believe Japanese product

All is your choice. Each one tell their oil is the best. That's why I want more professional people to talk about oil here. And not those who just anti for meaningless
 

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All engine oil protects your engine, just the matter of how fast it loses it properties.
Yes, cleaning detergent not good for long term use. But then VR2 turbo using diesel oil.
Diesel oil manyak clean.
Initially was suppose to use as a flush, meaning run for like 500km to 1k km then drain, but my engine run so quiet with it I kept until 5k km....hahaha:biggrin:
 

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That is true if its a race car. You know how often race cars rebuild their engines? After every race if the regulations allowed it.

How often you rebuild the engine in your car?

With the exception of Proton, you should always follow the manufacturer's recommended engine oil as outlined in the owner's manual. Most service centers will give you the engine oil they make the most profit margin on.

I agree with this. especially big workshop, oil company sponsor them many things include the sign board. They should only promote their oil is the best. I even came across a branded car accessories
shop in Jusco, they put many brand oil in their shop, at least 12 brand. Their sales person will only promote the most profitable oil, what the rest of 11 brand. They company is purposely put all the brand oil there, it keep it and don't want to sell. So they customer will see those oil bottle is dirty with full of dust. They just want to create a picture to the customer, their high profitable oil is the most sellerble oil.
It doesn't mean other brand oil is not good. This is strategy how business man play dirty trick.
 

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QUALITY means it can protect your engine just like mobil 1. i consider Mobil 1 as a quality standard.

How do you define quality?

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Cleaning detergent is not good for engine for long term use. Is that true?
If the oil doesn't clean you will have problems too.....

Define quality like you mention Mobil 1. My VR engine is like 10 years old after transplant, and usually I don't stick to one oil. I have been like trying many brands, from Toyota, Castrol, Bardahl, Esso (those days), Mobil, Pennzoil, Blue.Sky, Duckhams, BHP, Tesco, Zeetex, Q8, Delphi, etc. and in fact they are all in the cheaper range as I never pay more then RM150 for FS and in fact most of them are in the RM90 region....:driver:
 

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- people who believe in MLM product
- people who don't believe in MLm product
- People who just believe Malaysia product\
- People who just believe US product
- People who just believe Japanese product

All is your choice. Each one tell their oil is the best. That's why I want more professional people to talk about oil here. And not those who just anti for meaningless
Actually it doesn't matter how they are sold or from where. As long it has quality and it doesn't harm the engine, it can be use. As long it benefits consumers. To me where it comes from or how it is sold. Is not really an issue.

You have to test yourself and see which EO that suits you best and also not much of negative feedback.

If want to be safe, just get from Tesco. At least no fake EOs or low graded ones or reused ones.
Even Petrol station is safe. Quality Control is there.
 

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If the oil doesn't clean you will have problems too.....

Define quality like you mention Mobil 1. My VR engine is like 10 years old after transplant, and usually I don't stick to one oil. I have been like trying many brands, from Toyota, Castrol, Bardahl, Esso (those days), Mobil, Pennzoil, Blue.Sky, Duckhams, BHP, Tesco, Zeetex, Q8, Delphi, etc. and in fact they are all in the cheaper range as I never pay more then RM150 for FS and in fact most of them are in the RM90 region....:driver:
Since you using so many. I don't believe non of those will touch your heard. You just like a playboy...hahahaha..Anywhere is a good experience. Can give your own opinion or review?

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Actually it doesn't matter how they are sold or from where. As long it has quality and it doesn't harm the engine, it can be use. As long it benefits consumers. To me where it comes from or how it is sold. Is not really an issue.

You have to test yourself and see which EO that suits you best and also not much of negative feedback.

If want to be safe, just get from Tesco. At least no fake EOs or low graded ones or reused ones.
Even Petrol station is safe. Quality Control is there.
I not agree on that. 5 years ago I working for a company supply products to tesco. The time they want to do promotion, my boss will make lower grade product for limited promotion only. Which make sure it still make some profit. The most important is, when something can sell in tesco your product will be famous very fast.
 

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Since you using so many. I don't believe non of those will touch your heard. You just like a playboy...hahahaha..Anywhere is a good experience. Can give your own opinion or review?

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I not agree on that. 5 years ago I working for a company supply products to tesco. The time they want to do promotion, my boss will make lower grade product for limited promotion only. Which make sure it still make some profit. The most important is, when something can sell in tesco your product will be famous very fast.
I know for sure promotional items are mostly clearance or just some nearly expired stuffs.
 

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I use mobil 1...because its use (OEM) by the most powderfull car, Nissan GTR... :hmmmm:



actually because they are honest..
they say you can mix oil with different viscosity....
or change to or from mineral/semi-synthetics/fully synthetics between oil change, no problem...
and they also have high viscosity oil which is good for certain reason...lower is not always the best...

so honest...
 

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I use mobil 1...because its use (OEM) by the most powderfull car, Nissan GTR... :hmmmm:



actually because they are honest..
they say you can mix oil with different viscosity....
or change to or from mineral/semi-synthetics/fully synthetics between oil change, no problem...
and they also have high viscosity oil which is good for certain reason...lower is not always the best...

so honest...
How powderful?
 

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isshh... Thank you Dr.Ixeo teach me english with proper illustration and now i know the "ingalichi".

Btw, just stick back the old brands such as mobil 1, shell helix, petronas syntium, caltex havoline and so on.

And there is very hard to tell or define what is "quality", it's subjective to individual. I would say shell helix is a good oil but there is someone saying it's soso only.
 

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isshh... Thank you Dr.Ixeo teach me english with proper illustration and now i know the "ingalichi".

Btw, just stick back the old brands such as mobil 1, shell helix, petronas syntium, caltex havoline and so on.

And there is very hard to tell or define what is "quality", it's subjective to individual. I would say shell helix is a good oil but there is someone saying it's soso only.
Chemlube I used also okay, since you can actually buy directly from them and they will deliver.
Tesco ones should be safe too. Spareparts shops, u never know.
 

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Since you using so many. I don't believe non of those will touch your heard. You just like a playboy...hahahaha..Anywhere is a good experience. Can give your own opinion or review?
I poor man, so use cheapest possible. As for review to me almost the same.
If want to really find out must send used oil for test....:driver:

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I use mobil 1...because its use (OEM) by the most powderfull car, Nissan GTR... :hmmmm:



actually because they are honest..
they say you can mix oil with different viscosity....
or change to or from mineral/semi-synthetics/fully synthetics between oil change, no problem...
and they also have high viscosity oil which is good for certain reason...lower is not always the best...

so honest...
I mix my oil too. All balance oil just use for top up, be it be FS or SS oil.....
Engine also run for 10 years liao, and always being boosted.....:driver:
 

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To keep it really simple, if you find it on American Petroleum Institute and the API rating meets or exceeds the API rating required by your owner's manual, you're fine. If it is below or it doesn't show up in American Petroleum Institute you can kiss your warranty goodbye.

Motul, Mobil 1, Castrol, Petronas (yes Petronas), Shell, Total, Eneos are all safe choices, just make sure you check the rating meets what your owner's manual require. Modern cars are now going lighter in viscosity. 0w30 seems to be the rage for modern engines, and some even going to 0w20.
 

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To keep it really simple, if you find it on American Petroleum Institute and the API rating meets or exceeds the API rating required by your owner's manual, you're fine. If it is below or it doesn't show up in American Petroleum Institute you can kiss your warranty goodbye.

Motul, Mobil 1, Castrol, Petronas (yes Petronas), Shell, Total, Eneos are all safe choices, just make sure you check the rating meets what your owner's manual require. Modern cars are now going lighter in viscosity. 0w30 seems to be the rage for modern engines, and some even going to 0w20.
Not Proton. HAHAHAHAHAHA 20W50 fark my life.
 

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I use Liqui Moly and hope it does not contain cooking oil or any cleaning agents.:idea:
 

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I use Liqui Moly and hope it does not contain cooking oil or any cleaning agents.:idea:
Cleaning detergents good ma, my dip stick use to have lots of spots, after that use chemlube, is real clean now.
 

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Not Proton. HAHAHAHAHAHA 20W50 fark my life.
Good for older engine. This viscosity of yesteryear...hahahaha:biggrin:

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To keep it really simple, if you find it on American Petroleum Institute and the API rating meets or exceeds the API rating required by your owner's manual, you're fine. If it is below or it doesn't show up in American Petroleum Institute you can kiss your warranty goodbye.

Motul, Mobil 1, Castrol, Petronas (yes Petronas), Shell, Total, Eneos are all safe choices, just make sure you check the rating meets what your owner's manual require. Modern cars are now going lighter in viscosity. 0w30 seems to be the rage for modern engines, and some even going to 0w20.
Yup, agree. Only the popular ones scare got fake or imitation only....:banghead:
 

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Good for older engine. This viscosity of yesteryear...hahahaha:biggrin:

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Yup, agree. Only the popular ones scare got fake or imitation only....:banghead:
So like those Lexus FS and Bardahl that cost cheaper than manufacture price could be low quality or fake? RM90 for each. Where they are selling RM140 each.
 

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So like those Lexus FS and Bardahl that cost cheaper than manufacture price could be low quality or fake? RM90 for each. Where they are selling RM140 each.
Those at that price are group 3 FS. As far as I know the expensive ones are just overpriced for profit...:driver:
For example Shell Helix, Mobil and Castrol Edge are sold at RM200 plus, why then Tesco can sell at RM150?
If source from EU is cheap, then how can source from here is more expensive?
Why are cars from overseas cheaper then ours?:hmmmm:
 
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Those at that price are group 3 FS. As far as I know the expensive ones are just overpriced for profit...:driver:
For example Shell Helix, Mobil and Castrol Edge are sold at RM200 plus, why then Tesco can sell at RM150?
If source from EU is cheap, then how can source from here is more expensive?
Why are cars from overseas cheaper then ours?:hmmmm:
So is safe to use from sparepart shops while the manufacturer price is higher? Sometimes I just think that could be bulk buy that's why they can sell cheap.
 

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So is safe to use from sparepart shops while the manufacturer price is higher? Sometimes I just think that could be bulk buy that's why they can sell cheap.
ya loorr bulk orders must be, they order 1 full contenna vs your 1 full box, sure cannot compete, if Tesco were to held a warehouse sale, bet Total SS Energy 7000 from 100+, (previous sale @ 89.00) current sale 69.90 can get @ 50 bucks maybe
 

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ya loorr bulk orders must be, they order 1 full contenna vs your 1 full box, sure cannot compete, if Tesco were to held a warehouse sale, bet Total SS Energy 7000 from 100+, (previous sale @ 89.00) current sale 69.90 can get @ 50 bucks maybe
Let Tesco make a bit lah!, if not we cannot get cheap oil too......:biggrin:
 

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Have anyone heard about engine oil can go for
150,000 KM?
Can it be use?
 

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Have anyone heard about engine oil can go for
150,000 KM?
Can it be use?

which oil? used mcdonald cooking oil or JTX? :hmmmm:



Taken from Mobil 1 website : Mobil 1™ Extended Performance is good for 15,000 miles or one year under normal operating conditions.
(but they say you MUST follow your vehicle manufacturer recommendation)
which means you MUST follow your engine OCI not the engine oil..


Thats only around 24,000km..
 

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which oil? used mcdonald cooking oil or JTX? :hmmmm:











Taken from Mobil 1 website : Mobil 1™ Extended Performance is good for 15,000 miles or one year under normal operating conditions.


(but they say you MUST follow your vehicle manufacturer recommendation)


which means you MUST follow your engine OCI not the engine oil..








Thats only around 24,000km..





what a joke JTX has became ahhahahahahahaha :laugh:








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By the size of the cock that fits in the seller's mouth.

For example, JTX 1000 GOLD
Menjimatkan petrol 10%-20%, Meningkatkan kuasa enjin 20%-30%, Memanjangkan jangka hayat enjin

If it can increase engine power by 20%... why the fuck I go and turbocharge my boat? I must be stupid right? :stupid:

Proton Campro CFE only manage to increase HP by 25% over a normal Campro. No wonder Proton so damn sohai, they should have just poured JTX in!

Feel free to entertain yourself with the rubbish here
World's Best Lubricants jtx1000 Motor oil
The funniest claim I've seen by JTX sellers is that there's no "chemicals" in the oil. Must be made of pure crude oil then!

QUALITY means it can protect your engine just like mobil 1. i consider Mobil 1 as a quality standard.

How do you define quality?

Cleaning detergent is not good for engine for long term use. Is that true?
If you have to ask about cleaning detergents like that, you obviously know nothing about engine oils :hmmmm:

Engine oils are made of base oils, detergents, friction modifiers, heat dissipants, etc. The purpose of engine oil isn't just for "protecting" your engine. It lubricates, dissipates heat, cleans the engine of varnish / sludge / carbon (some extent) and all that. So if your oil has no detergents it's pretty useless. If you don't know what varnish, please go read up about it first.

To me a quality oil is one that keeps my engine clean, keeps my engine cool and keeps it running smoothly without breaking down too quickly.

I agree with this. especially big workshop, oil company sponsor them many things include the sign board. They should only promote their oil is the best. I even came across a branded car accessories
shop in Jusco, they put many brand oil in their shop, at least 12 brand. Their sales person will only promote the most profitable oil, what the rest of 11 brand. They company is purposely put all the brand oil there, it keep it and don't want to sell. So they customer will see those oil bottle is dirty with full of dust. They just want to create a picture to the customer, their high profitable oil is the most sellerble oil.
It doesn't mean other brand oil is not good. This is strategy how business man play dirty trick.
This isn't called dirty tricks. It's called business. There's no such shop that'll sell brands that they don't carry.

Not Proton. HAHAHAHAHAHA 20W50 fark my life.
Actually, I'm wondering why you're using such a thick oil.
 

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which oil? used mcdonald cooking oil or JTX? :hmmmm:



Taken from Mobil 1 website : Mobil 1™ Extended Performance is good for 15,000 miles or one year under normal operating conditions.
(but they say you MUST follow your vehicle manufacturer recommendation)
which means you MUST follow your engine OCI not the engine oil..


Thats only around 24,000km..
Yup, Even oil manufacturer do not claim the long mileage and usually ask to follow car manufacturer OCI

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The funniest claim I've seen by JTX sellers is that there's no "chemicals" in the oil. Must be made of pure crude oil then!

If you have to ask about cleaning detergents like that, you obviously know nothing about engine oils :hmmmm:

Engine oils are made of base oils, detergents, friction modifiers, heat dissipants, etc. The purpose of engine oil isn't just for "protecting" your engine. It lubricates, dissipates heat, cleans the engine of varnish / sludge / carbon (some extent) and all that. So if your oil has no detergents it's pretty useless. If you don't know what varnish, please go read up about it first.

To me a quality oil is one that keeps my engine clean, keeps my engine cool and keeps it running smoothly without breaking down too quickly.

This isn't called dirty tricks. It's called business. There's no such shop that'll sell brands that they don't carry.

Actually, I'm wondering why you're using such a thick oil.
Yup, good explanation. That is why the oil gets dirty and you need to change them when due...

Br. SC mention 20w-50 is because that is what is recommended in his car manual...hahahaha
 

stupidcar

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Yup, Even oil manufacturer do not claim the long mileage and usually ask to follow car manufacturer OCI

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Yup, good explanation. That is why the oil gets dirty and you need to change them when due...

Br. SC mention 20w-50 is because that is what is recommended in his car manual...hahahaha
Yeah, Bro VR listened. :laugh:
 

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Even BMW lifetime ATF oil is not "lifetime".. what makes these people think JTX engine oil can last so long eludes me. Must be some strong stuff they are smoking.

Not sure to say the buyers are stupid or gullible.