Alza engine transplant/major modification-mpv fr trackday

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Hi all gurus n senior Z2

I need u guys to link me any previous thread or any information u have.In mind -maybe 4g corolla engine can be install to alza bay.

I may wrong OR maybe its realy can be done/someone have done-by using custome mounting@same as hasport do fr ef/eg/ek to swap k serious..

In future if transplant succsess and endorse-will plung in either 4throtle system or kacuk with supercharge piston/bolt on turbo fr that 4age alza

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I know you can. (anything is possible if you throw enough money at it.)

but why?
His last line post......Should be answer to your why?....hahaha
In future if transplant succsess and endorse-will plung in either 4throtle system or kacuk with supercharge piston/bolt on turbo fr that 4age alza ...
 
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alza has small bay. plunge 4throttle or supercharge it. wont it be to cramped to work with it? should be interesting to find out
 
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Hi all gurus n senior Z2

I need u guys to link me any previous thread or any information u have.In mind -maybe 4g corolla engine can be install to alza bay.

I may wrong OR maybe its realy can be done/someone have done-by using custome mounting@same as hasport do fr ef/eg/ek to swap k serious..

In future if transplant succsess and endorse-will plung in either 4throtle system or kacuk with supercharge piston/bolt on turbo fr that 4age alza

Thnks
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4AGE mounting. I think the mounting locations are way too different to be legal.

I think it's not worth the trouble of transplanting la. There's a Sirion turbo version of the 3SZ-VE engine. Why not just go that direction instead?

Or if you're still thinking NA, with the same amount of money you want to do the 4G transplant, why not oversize the pistons on the 3SZ-VE and put ITBs there with a standalone? It's potentially a lot easier to do and less headache. Oh and a manual gearbox you probably could fit the Myvi Lagi best 1.5 manual tranny in with minimal mods since it's the same engine. Maybe could throw in a final drive too for more pickup. Then maybe even a LSD. Potentially cheaper than the 4AGE swap.

Incidentally the 4AGE swap is just a 0.1 L increase and much much older tech. Why la?
 
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Ixeo plus the others seniors here..tq

Since the mounting is quite hard to be magic as per Hasport do to eg/ek fr kSerius

I may drop to buy an alza..I dreaming of suburu exiga fr sunday track day..but then money lorr

I pray one day got buddy here plunged toyota engine to alza bay<reminding me when I start play with car detomaso 4e...its quit straight fwd convrsian
 

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4AGE mounting. I think the mounting locations are way too different to be legal.

I think it's not worth the trouble of transplanting la. There's a Sirion turbo version of the 3SZ-VE engine. Why not just go that direction instead?

Or if you're still thinking NA, with the same amount of money you want to do the 4G transplant, why not oversize the pistons on the 3SZ-VE and put ITBs there with a standalone? It's potentially a lot easier to do and less headache. Oh and a manual gearbox you probably could fit the Myvi Lagi best 1.5 manual tranny in with minimal mods since it's the same engine. Maybe could throw in a final drive too for more pickup. Then maybe even a LSD. Potentially cheaper than the 4AGE swap.

Incidentally the 4AGE swap is just a 0.1 L increase and much much older tech. Why la?

Hi there..

I plan to 4age cz we can play with na-4 throttle or be more serious by plung in supercharger piston on become bolt on turbo

With 6 sp gear box..it may become alza JAHAT..hi hi
 

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Ixeo plus the others seniors here..tq

Since the mounting is quite hard to be magic as per Hasport do to eg/ek fr kSerius

I may drop to buy an alza..I dreaming of suburu exiga fr sunday track day..but then money lorr

I pray one day got buddy here plunged toyota engine to alza bay<reminding me when I start play with car detomaso 4e...its quit straight fwd convrsian
why wanna swap 4AGE when u can swap K3VET? not nice ah?
 
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Hi there..

I plan to 4age cz we can play with na-4 throttle or be more serious by plung in supercharger piston on become bolt on turbo

With 6 sp gear box..it may become alza JAHAT..hi hi
4 throttle can mod into any 4-cylinder car la. Just need tuning after that. Anyway - your money you choose what you want la.

why wanna swap 4AGE when u can swap K3VET? not nice ah?
Can la.. like what Ixeo mentioned. I only pointed out the 3SZ because it's already there. No swap hassle. Also a drop in capacity can't be good unless can mix and match with the 3SZ block?
 

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4 throttle can mod into any 4-cylinder car la. Just need tuning after that. Anyway - your money you choose what you want la.


Can la.. like what Ixeo mentioned. I only pointed out the 3SZ because it's already there. No swap hassle. Also a drop in capacity can't be good unless can mix and match with the 3SZ block?
i read the 3sz head can plug n play on the k3vet block. people do that coz the 3sz head got larger valves. but i cant find anyone mate a k3 head on 3sz block. hahahaha.
 

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4 throttle can mod into any 4-cylinder car la. Just need tuning after that. Anyway - your money you choose what you want la.


Can la.. like what Ixeo mentioned. I only pointed out the 3SZ because it's already there. No swap hassle. Also a drop in capacity can't be good unless can mix and match with the 3SZ block?

Mrning senior

I still dreaming off 4age list off tuning/aftermarket that quick n easy to get

In my area jb here n I know got some tuner in skudai area play wth 4ag + 7ag settup- hence NA wth suprising power

Plus in hand I got partial of 4 throttle sets that might mods to that 4ag< if can plugged into alza n at the moment its may facing dificulty of engine mounting to straights swap as eg/ek plonged kSeries via Hasport

That the original idea of planning buy an alza n build a trackday mpv-i am happy to sit at the backmarker group.

:ps...pray to god someday got gurus plunged 4ge into alza
 

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i read the 3sz head can plug n play on the k3vet block. people do that coz the 3sz head got larger valves. but i cant find anyone mate a k3 head on 3sz block. hahahaha.
In the option of dificulty finding 3sze VS 4age

Might make me thinking twice of variant fr alza tuning/mpv for track day..

I may opt to vol v50 n try to drown of 10-15k depo n hope got credit compny that can give loan to that BIG keranda car/undertakker

Ps: please guy/gurus help to find a ways to plonged 4age to alza.if i not wrong got workshop do in malaysia fr those custome brackets set fr honda variant-penang area
 

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In the option of dificulty finding 3sze VS 4age

Might make me thinking twice of variant fr alza tuning/mpv for track day..

I may opt to vol v50 n try to drown of 10-15k depo n hope got credit compny that can give loan to that BIG keranda car/undertakker

Ps: please guy/gurus help to find a ways to plonged 4age to alza.if i not wrong got workshop do in malaysia fr those custome brackets set fr honda variant-penang area
like what @Izso said, you cant put 4AGE engine inside an alza without spending ridiculous amount of money for the mountings and placement. also, ITB cant fit in there as well coz it'll be under the wiper cowl close to the firewall. unless u change the intake facing towards the radiator, which again requires ridiculous amount of money to spend on reengineering stuff. i think there should be plenty of aftermarket internals parts for 3SZ engine. simple google search already can find a bolt-on turbo kit for the 3SZ. but, if your alza is auto, i don't think the gearbox is good enough to handle the power after done all those mods.

which is why we're back to K3VET halfcut as the best reliable option for swap. :sweatsmile:

can't say much about volvo other than expensive parts. hahaha. 850 wagon or V70 with straight 6 tebo should be better than the V50. but modding a conti wagon requires fat bank acc balance. :laughing:
 

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In the option of dificulty finding 3sze VS 4age

Might make me thinking twice of variant fr alza tuning/mpv for track day..

I may opt to vol v50 n try to drown of 10-15k depo n hope got credit compny that can give loan to that BIG keranda car/undertakker

Ps: please guy/gurus help to find a ways to plonged 4age to alza.if i not wrong got workshop do in malaysia fr those custome brackets set fr honda variant-penang area
7A now has become quite rare and quite expensive. Nice mod for the 4AGE but expensive.

Since you are so adamant on going the 4AGE route - why don't you do it and let us now how it works out la. No one here has done it before and I've asked my mech and he said "what for? No power and heavy car means damn cib@i to drive".

You try and share here la. It'll be interesting to see
 

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In the option of dificulty finding 3sze VS 4age

Might make me thinking twice of variant fr alza tuning/mpv for track day..

I may opt to vol v50 n try to drown of 10-15k depo n hope got credit compny that can give loan to that BIG keranda car/undertakker

Ps: please guy/gurus help to find a ways to plonged 4age to alza.if i not wrong got workshop do in malaysia fr those custome brackets set fr honda variant-penang area
May I suggest perhaps you just use the stock engine for track and slightly mod it to get better power and improve the handling and weight reduction. Since it's just track day so you are not in a competitive situation where every second matters or you gonna engage in a dogfight going door to door racing. You can just drive at your own pace and set your own lap time. MPV on track maybe is rare here but overseas you do come across such platform on the track.
 

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TS seems pretty adamant on a power house MPV for trackdays. Well if u must, this would be easier done with the Exora. People are already dumping serious power into em, gsr conversions, evo conversions and mivec 1.8 etc. But if the only reason you wanna track an MPV because its your family carrier i suggest get an mvp and keep it as a family carrier. Then buy a cheap second car to play. Heck even a proton saga would work. you can play with suspension upgrades and stock engine. Chances are it is still better then a family mpv on track as you will be able to have a proper suspension set up instead of something with a comfort priority.
 
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i heard.... those guys who convert the exora do face some cooling related issues, so do take note.