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Hi sifus. I've been planning to get an airtrek. Not soon enough, still sorting out my budget. I wanna know, how hard is it to find the parts for airtrek? especially the handling stuff (lower arms, bushes, brake pads etc.) without breaking a leg. the 4g63t engine parts i know still got stock MMC parts that doesnt cost a bomb.

also, how reliable is the gearbox, transfer case and all? i read online the gearbox is rated at 35kgm of torque. what's the common problem u guys while having the airtrek?

thanks sifus!
 

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Isn't the airtrek older than your defunct Wira? I'd guess it'd be double more expensive than your Wira.
 

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Isn't the airtrek older than your defunct Wira? I'd guess it'd be double more expensive than your Wira.
airtrek is slightly newer. ahahaha. wira is based on the lancer/evo1-3. airtrek is evo 7 crossover.

my option is either getting an airtrek or a suprima S.
 

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more or less similar maintenance...

slightly more parts to wear n tear due to awd

slightly more fc...(trade off for power)

better comfort and luggage space

better street cred

parts since sharing with evo 456789...should be no problem
 
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more or less similar maintenance...

slightly more parts to wear n tear due to awd

slightly more fc...(trade off for power)

better comfort and luggage space

better street cred

parts since sharing with evo 456789...should be no problem
Whats the km/l on this thing?
 

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airtrek is slightly newer. ahahaha. wira is based on the lancer/evo1-3. airtrek is evo 7 crossover.

my option is either getting an airtrek or a suprima S.
One is SUV, one is car loh, depends what you want. Airtrek got mechanic Ah Wah also....haha
 
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buy buy buy...


more or less similar maintenance...

slightly more parts to wear n tear due to awd

slightly more fc...(trade off for power)

better comfort and luggage space

better street cred

parts since sharing with evo 456789...should be no problem
i know the parts sharing with evo. but if go spare part shop ask for evo sure the price will break my wallet. ahahaha. the OEM parts can still get or not? like specifically for CU2W.

the FC more or less is somewhat similar to me whacking my wira daily. but surely gonna be slightly more coz i will definitely whack it.

One is SUV, one is car loh, depends what you want. Airtrek got mechanic Ah Wah also....haha
airtrek my mech can oso can fix. hehe. just wanna know the parts and maintenance whether gonna damage my wallet or not. ahaha
 

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dude, just get airtrek instead of suprima.. why?

because it shares an evo parts more than u know. it shares "C" chasis as airtrek are Cu2w/Cu4w while evo are also Ce9a or CT9a bla bla bla.. Engine internal were taken from evo 5 (include piston, conrod, crank, balance shaft). the Invecs 2 tiptronic gearbox shares from a evo 7.5/lancer GT. the whole front/engine subframes can be swap to any evo from 4 to 9, frt absorber can use evo 789. rear absorber shares with lancer gt (tho Lgt absorber are like 2cm lower). ECU is tunable by ECU reflash. even Gearbox can be tune by some old timer tuner but will slightly shorten the durability. stock dyno is around 190ish on wheel. stock turbo is a TD04hl (the biggest td04 in the td04 lineup). evo swap parts/turbo is good for 250 to 300whp. it is advise to stick around 350whp and below to keep the gearbox happy (but it may depends on how healthy is the gearbox, the culprit is the tiny wave spring. change to evo 7.5 wave spring thicker and stronger).

i would love to help u on any airtrek info, im a proud owner of airtrek for 7 years.
 

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dude, just get airtrek instead of suprima.. why?

because it shares an evo parts more than u know. it shares "C" chasis as airtrek are Cu2w/Cu4w while evo are also Ce9a or CT9a bla bla bla.. Engine internal were taken from evo 5 (include piston, conrod, crank, balance shaft). the Invecs 2 tiptronic gearbox shares from a evo 7.5/lancer GT. the whole front/engine subframes can be swap to any evo from 4 to 9, frt absorber can use evo 789. rear absorber shares with lancer gt (tho Lgt absorber are like 2cm lower). ECU is tunable by ECU reflash. even Gearbox can be tune by some old timer tuner but will slightly shorten the durability. stock dyno is around 190ish on wheel. stock turbo is a TD04hl (the biggest td04 in the td04 lineup). evo swap parts/turbo is good for 250 to 300whp. it is advise to stick around 350whp and below to keep the gearbox happy (but it may depends on how healthy is the gearbox, the culprit is the tiny wave spring. change to evo 7.5 wave spring thicker and stronger).

i would love to help u on any airtrek info, im a proud owner of airtrek for 7 years.
wah. this is lots of tips and info. 7 years stronk, any recurring issues to your airtrek?
 

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wah. this is lots of tips and info. 7 years stronk, any recurring issues to your airtrek?
hard to say recurring, but there is some common issues.. such as crack stock turbo manifold (normally occur after 10+ years), stepper motor (Idling motor) kong, MAF sensor kong, stock radiator fan kong, EGR dirty need to be clean, crank sensor faulty (after very long years), gearbox wave spring broken.

thats about it.. the most common is that first 3.
 

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Parts are still reachable and can also source new from an authorized supplier such as Bintang auto parts (the best airtrek evo supplier i could recommend). some parts can use from halfcut shop, some are better buy new.. so u have to be smart. or if u have unlimited budget, just get all new parts..
 

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hard to say recurring, but there is some common issues.. such as crack stock turbo manifold (normally occur after 10+ years), stepper motor (Idling motor) kong, MAF sensor kong, stock radiator fan kong, EGR dirty need to be clean, crank sensor faulty (after very long years), gearbox wave spring broken.

thats about it.. the most common is that first 3.
First 3 not only airtrek but on most 4G63T, even my VR change manifold twice already......lol
 
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hard to say recurring, but there is some common issues.. such as crack stock turbo manifold (normally occur after 10+ years), stepper motor (Idling motor) kong, MAF sensor kong, stock radiator fan kong, EGR dirty need to be clean, crank sensor faulty (after very long years), gearbox wave spring broken.

thats about it.. the most common is that first 3.
Parts are still reachable and can also source new from an authorized supplier such as Bintang auto parts (the best airtrek evo supplier i could recommend). some parts can use from halfcut shop, some are better buy new.. so u have to be smart. or if u have unlimited budget, just get all new parts..
ahh. ok. first 3 are pretty common for 4g's. so i guess i can expect something similar as per my 4g93 wira. this thread is giving me more determination to get an airtrek. ahaha. hopefully can reach my target this year.
 
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For repairs and parts, you can still get it. Just contact Ah Wah. Contact info available at pinned topics.

My previous Atr averages around 5.8 to 6.5km/L. On highways, I get around 7+. Not the most fuel efficiency car but hey, you get plenty of space and fun. When I got the car, I raised the stock boost from 0.6 bar to 1 bar and used it for like over 2 years. Everything was stock and I did not face a single problem.

Then I dump all possible Evo mods, TD05, cams, injectors, block, pnp, full exhaust, fuel pump, dyno-tune, bla bla bla. Upped the boost to 1.6 bar getting around 270whp. I manage to clock 5.9 secs from 0-100km/h. It was fun but trade off with some turbo lag.

However I sold it in 2016 because it was an old car with aging problems, my wife drives it and we cannot afford to keep having problems like stalling out of sudden, bad starter, bad ICV, bad MAF, jam calipers, weird noise during cold start and many more. Even though I kept replacing the bad parts, new problems keep coming up. Remember, the car is at least 15 years now.

If you use this as a weekend car for some fun, then go ahead. Suprima S is no way near. However if you plan to use it as daily cow cart, unless the condition is superb, else it will not be practical due to reliability issues.
 

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For repairs and parts, you can still get it. Just contact Ah Wah. Contact info available at pinned topics.

My previous Atr averages around 5.8 to 6.5km/L. On highways, I get around 7+. Not the most fuel efficiency car but hey, you get plenty of space and fun. When I got the car, I raised the stock boost from 0.6 bar to 1 bar and used it for like over 2 years. Everything was stock and I did not face a single problem.

Then I dump all possible Evo mods, TD05, cams, injectors, block, pnp, full exhaust, fuel pump, dyno-tune, bla bla bla. Upped the boost to 1.6 bar getting around 270whp. I manage to clock 5.9 secs from 0-100km/h. It was fun but trade off with some turbo lag.

However I sold it in 2016 because it was an old car with aging problems, my wife drives it and we cannot afford to keep having problems like stalling out of sudden, bad starter, bad ICV, bad MAF, jam calipers, weird noise during cold start and many more. Even though I kept replacing the bad parts, new problems keep coming up. Remember, the car is at least 15 years now.

If you use this as a weekend car for some fun, then go ahead. Suprima S is no way near. However if you plan to use it as daily cow cart, unless the condition is superb, else it will not be practical due to reliability issues.
ah dang. if i buy this, my wife is gonna be using it as daily. need to really do a thorough check before buying then. another reason why i ask if the parts are easy to source. as in the handling and brakes parts. those are definitely need to be in good condition to be daily driven.
 

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I am not worry about availability of parts. Ah Wah has almost everything under the roof. Sometimes you just need to give him time to search. As long as you have time (allow downtime) and money to repair, this is not a problem.

For me, the worry was reliability. There was a few times the car stalled in the middle of a hot afternoon traffic jam. The starter just click but not cranking. My wife has been complaining so much, so much that I decided to part with my big potato and got a new boring car. The good thing is, the new boring car is double the efficiency and it's reliable. So I have not heard about complaints for 3 years now.
 
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I am not worry about availability of parts. Ah Wah has almost everything under the roof. Sometimes you just need to give him time to search. As long as you have time (allow downtime) and money to repair, this is not a problem.

For me, the worry was reliability. There was a few times the car stalled in the middle of a hot afternoon traffic jam. The starter just click but not cranking. My wife has been complaining so much, so much that I decided to part with my big potato and got a new boring car. The good thing is, the new boring car is double the efficiency and it's reliable. So I have not heard about complaints for 3 years now.
hmmm. need to really get my budget straight up purchase and do. will see how it goes. thanks for the tips bro.
 

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For repairs and parts, you can still get it. Just contact Ah Wah. Contact info available at pinned topics.

My previous Atr averages around 5.8 to 6.5km/L. On highways, I get around 7+. Not the most fuel efficiency car but hey, you get plenty of space and fun. When I got the car, I raised the stock boost from 0.6 bar to 1 bar and used it for like over 2 years. Everything was stock and I did not face a single problem.

Then I dump all possible Evo mods, TD05, cams, injectors, block, pnp, full exhaust, fuel pump, dyno-tune, bla bla bla. Upped the boost to 1.6 bar getting around 270whp. I manage to clock 5.9 secs from 0-100km/h. It was fun but trade off with some turbo lag.

However I sold it in 2016 because it was an old car with aging problems, my wife drives it and we cannot afford to keep having problems like stalling out of sudden, bad starter, bad ICV, bad MAF, jam calipers, weird noise during cold start and many more. Even though I kept replacing the bad parts, new problems keep coming up. Remember, the car is at least 15 years now.

If you use this as a weekend car for some fun, then go ahead. Suprima S is no way near. However if you plan to use it as daily cow cart, unless the condition is superb, else it will not be practical due to reliability issues.
Ah! another sifu come in already, was waiting for him actually......hhahahhahha

You mod until 270whp, 6km/l ok loh, my VR stock 200bhp also around that mileage......lol
 

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ah dang. if i buy this, my wife is gonna be using it as daily. need to really do a thorough check before buying then. another reason why i ask if the parts are easy to source. as in the handling and brakes parts. those are definitely need to be in good condition to be daily driven.
Do like me, wife gets newer stock car, more reliability, turbo car you drive mah......lol
 
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Ah! another sifu come in already, was waiting for him actually......hhahahhahha

You mod until 270whp, 6km/l ok loh, my VR stock 200bhp also around that mileage......lol
Ya bro, long time no come here la... hehehe... how's life man? good to see u guys kicking.. hehe
 

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Do like me, wife gets newer stock car, more reliability, turbo car you drive mah......lol
yup, that could work... I should have sold my RX-8 and keep the Airtrek instead but my family wanted the RX-8 so much... so majority wins.
 

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like that i should just get the suprima s for her to drive and continue with my wira project. but airtrek seems like a better choice in terms of fun and spacious. :confused:
Just remember, u already have 1 project car. Having the Airtrek will makes it 2. Dont tell me u wont be gatal tangan to mod the Airtrek.....right?

U need space and fun....only suv/pickup/wagon can do all those quite well.

If u want fun but not much space and dont mind a Proton, get the 1.3 iriz. Damn these cute car is fun to throw around. FC is great too. Need more equipment, get the 1.6. Its much safer than any Perodua, trust me. The HPFFFF thingny is really doing its job.
 

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bro.... if you want to save money and nagging from your wifey, then go with Suprima S. It's a newer car and reliability will be generally better. However don't put too much hope for performance.

I want to also make it clear that in stock, Airtrek is NOT a fast car. Like mentioned by the other brothers here, stock only churns out around 180'ish whp. Coupe with lazy INVECS II gearbox and ridiculously heavy chassis (over 1600kgs), the car is slow and heavy. The fun begins only when you start modding it.

I have heard some comments before that in stock, Airtrek hits 100kph sub 9 secs. That's far cry compared to what the catalog claimed - 6.5secs.
 

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Just remember, u already have 1 project car. Having the Airtrek will makes it 2. Dont tell me u wont be gatal tangan to mod the Airtrek.....right?

U need space and fun....only suv/pickup/wagon can do all those quite well.

If u want fun but not much space and dont mind a Proton, get the 1.3 iriz. Damn these cute car is fun to throw around. FC is great too. Need more equipment, get the 1.6. Its much safer than any Perodua, trust me. The HPFFFF thingny is really doing its job.
I think he should have 1 reliable daily car and 1 project car. Having 2 project cars scarifying reliability is not a wise decision. I have been in this situation before, Airtrek and RX-8. High maintenance, high fuel consumption and not meant to be stuck in jam for hours. I gave up.... just sharing my experience.
 
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Just remember, u already have 1 project car. Having the Airtrek will makes it 2. Dont tell me u wont be gatal tangan to mod the Airtrek.....right?

U need space and fun....only suv/pickup/wagon can do all those quite well.

If u want fun but not much space and dont mind a Proton, get the 1.3 iriz. Damn these cute car is fun to throw around. FC is great too. Need more equipment, get the 1.6. Its much safer than any Perodua, trust me. The HPFFFF thingny is really doing its job.
bro.... if you want to save money and nagging from your wifey, then go with Suprima S. It's a newer car and reliability will be generally better. However don't put too much hope for performance.

I want to also make it clear that in stock, Airtrek is NOT a fast car. Like mentioned by the other brothers here, stock only churns out around 180'ish whp. Coupe with lazy INVECS II gearbox and ridiculously heavy chassis (over 1600kgs), the car is slow and heavy. The fun begins only when you start modding it.

I have heard some comments before that in stock, Airtrek hits 100kph sub 9 secs. That's far cry compared to what the catalog claimed - 6.5secs.
for sure i will mod the airtrek. but just light mods. ahahaha. hmm. this will need another thought when i get the budget ready. :sweatsmile::sweatsmile:
 

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I think he should have 1 reliable daily car and 1 project car. Having 2 project cars scarifying reliability is not a wise decision. I have been in this situation before, Airtrek and RX-8. High maintenance, high fuel consumption and not meant to be stuck in jam for hours. I gave up.... just sharing my experience.
No...no...we man never give...
We make sacrifice...hihihi

My sis own a Suprima and my bro own an Iriz 1.3. I prefer the Iriz as its the more refined car. However sanekit needs space so it has to be the suprima.
 

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No...no...we man never give...
We make sacrifice...hihihi

My sis own a Suprima and my bro own an Iriz 1.3. I prefer the Iriz as its the more refined car. However sanekit needs space so it has to be the suprima.
yeah. iriz is a bit small. suprima price about same range as airtrek, used. hence the choice option. wife is not that picky, she's ok as long as it doesnt give serious issues or breakdowns. haha
 

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yeah. iriz is a bit small. suprima price about same range as airtrek, used. hence the choice option. wife is not that picky, she's ok as long as it doesnt give serious issues or breakdowns. haha
Yah! that is why I kept VR since year 2000, and wife change her Wira for second hand Sonata III then new Chery SUV, then the Forester.....lol
 
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Like bro stutz said earlier, stock airtrek is not a fast car. but the potential is very high. we have so many tuned up fast airtrek on the street even got a manual trans swap. with so many evo performance parts to choose, its only a matter of budget and time. Or u can always let it mild tuned, but mod the external to look badass.. u know ur a mitsu blood brother rite? hehehe
 

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Precisely! Tuning is only limited to the depth of your pocket. You can go insanel or just mild. For me, I just changed to stock Evo setup. Even though Airtrek has the same engine, the internals are completely different. So the 40hp lesser actually lacks of plenty good stuffs from Evo.
 

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i found this interesting video on youtube about airtrek
i think the airtrek old timers in here recognised this guy

 
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easy bro.. get 1 new reliable super fuel efficient car for your wife. reward yourself with the fire breathing turbo car like airtrek.:beer:
like that i need to sell my wira also. ahahaha.

Precisely! Tuning is only limited to the depth of your pocket. You can go insanel or just mild. For me, I just changed to stock Evo setup. Even though Airtrek has the same engine, the internals are completely different. So the 40hp lesser actually lacks of plenty good stuffs from Evo.
from what i know, the airtrek turbo is actually a detuned version of evo 7 gta. so yeah, can do lots of stuff to it. but my target is reliability as a daily driver. looking at what u guys said, the parts are still easy to source compared to the naza citra we currently have. we actually planning to sell that citra and get another car that's easier to maintain. but mother in law have veto power on that citra so i don't know if she's ok with us getting an airtrek. ahahaha
 

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like that i need to sell my wira also. ahahaha.


from what i know, the airtrek turbo is actually a detuned version of evo 7 gta. so yeah, can do lots of stuff to it. but my target is reliability as a daily driver. looking at what u guys said, the parts are still easy to source compared to the naza citra we currently have. we actually planning to sell that citra and get another car that's easier to maintain. but mother in law have veto power on that citra so i don't know if she's ok with us getting an airtrek. ahahaha
Want reliable, don't mod at all, but then car is pretty old also....lol But hard to say, if new car, lemon also give problem.....hhahahhahah
 

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like that i need to sell my wira also. ahahaha.


from what i know, the airtrek turbo is actually a detuned version of evo 7 gta. so yeah, can do lots of stuff to it. but my target is reliability as a daily driver. looking at what u guys said, the parts are still easy to source compared to the naza citra we currently have. we actually planning to sell that citra and get another car that's easier to maintain. but mother in law have veto power on that citra so i don't know if she's ok with us getting an airtrek. ahahaha
My gawddd.. you want reliable and a reasonably cheap people carrier get the Alza. Forget about a daily turbo Airtrek man. I had the next best thing and it was a nightmare to run daily.
 

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My gawddd.. you want reliable and a reasonably cheap people carrier get the Alza. Forget about a daily turbo Airtrek man. I had the next best thing and it was a nightmare to run daily.

yeah.. alza would be a better choice for daily and reliabilitty and fc....

especially on strict budget for daily fuel and maintenance cost...
 

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My gawddd.. you want reliable and a reasonably cheap people carrier get the Alza. Forget about a daily turbo Airtrek man. I had the next best thing and it was a nightmare to run daily.
hahahaha. nooooo.. airtrek can be reliable too. cheaper than fixing the citra. :driver::driver: