Accord Euro-R CL7 maintenance..

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Hello hondarians,
Just wanna get some opinion from u guys about accord euro-r cl7....now im looking forward to own one preferably a recon model,but im not very sure about the maintenance cost and availability of the spareparts here in malaysia since the car is very rare.i have a few questions:
1)does it share same engine parts with fd2r,since it also uses k20a?
2)have you guys ever encounter any cl7 halfcut in klang valley area?is it hard to get one?
3)could u guys suggest any reputable workshop for it?bcoz now using EK used to send to 'under tree' workshop...hehe
4)any known problem about the car.....
hope opinions from u guys could help...cheers...:driver:
 

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As for engine, as long as stock and maintain intervally, shouldnot be any problems.

As for bodyparts, u have to cry first..then may be u get small parts. No hcut available yet. Just pray a lot. But not to worry, s'pore a lot!!

Service centre - any normal workshop can do. Don't too much believe on workshop reputation, especially in sunway areas.
 

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Thank for d info Aja...now as far as i see the problem is to get the bodyparts.for engine i wont worry much since honda is very reliable.nowadays also most of recon car dealer not interested to import the CL7 model that make it more difficult.they said theres no demand and something to do with honda malaysia policy,to avoid competition with malaysian accord something like that.but i believe theres fans and owners of CL7 model out there(ada ka?if so can be my future sifu la...hehe) :adore::adore:
 

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As for engine, as long as stock and maintain intervally, shouldnot be any problems.
As for bodyparts, u have to cry first..then may be u get small parts. No hcut available yet. Just pray a lot. But not to worry, s'pore a lot!!
Service centre - any normal workshop can do. Don't too much believe on workshop reputation, especially in sunway areas.
agreed....stay in stock condition no problem la. bro aja euro r also no engine modification but still can tapau evo n no major problems on the engine until now
 

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As for engine, as long as stock and maintain intervally, shouldnot be any problems.

As for bodyparts, u have to cry first..then may be u get small parts. No hcut available yet. Just pray a lot. But not to worry, s'pore a lot!!

Service centre - any normal workshop can do. Don't too much believe on workshop reputation, especially in sunway areas.
hcut should be coming very very soon,...
aprox 2004, now 2009,... lai lai lai,...

Thank for d info Aja...now as far as i see the problem is to get the bodyparts.for engine i wont worry much since honda is very reliable.nowadays also most of recon car dealer not interested to import the CL7 model that make it more difficult.they said theres no demand and something to do with honda malaysia policy,to avoid competition with malaysian accord something like that.but i believe theres fans and owners of CL7 model out there(ada ka?if so can be my future sifu la...hehe) :adore::adore:
CL7, ada,... got many in malaysia already,...
we know there's abt 5,... from havoc and zth and mttrader forum,...
out there on the road,... maybe 100-200,... the R and also the 2.0E and the 2.4 CL9,...

agreed....stay in stock condition no problem la. bro aja euro r also no engine modification but still can tapau evo n no major problems on the engine until now
helmi, no need look for future sifu,...
bulet's original CL1 is more rare than the CL7
u can buy orange/apple for sifu aja / sifu bulet / etc.

anyway, the policy of honda malaysia,...
nowadays not applicable liao,... it was in the early year 2000s that the policy and AP law was in-force, thus, recond hondas (those celebrate 5th birthday) at that time,... u pay a high premium compared to buying an evo/scooby/garisan langit,... etc,...

thatz why the EK9, EK4, CF4, CL1,... and such,... byk kurang in malaysia.

as aja said,... negara singa banyak!
 

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Bros, now where can get CL7 except Naza ya?? cos so far rahman brothers, dmg, mutiara that used to advertise no longer put CL7 ad d....Naza one very expensive i saw, they quote 18Xk++
 

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Hehe..tats rite amdfaisal,i oso saw ur name in d shc-forum looking for CL7 parts.so now i can see brighter chance to own one:proud: one more question,for normal wear n tear/consumable parts like beltings,engine mounts,oil filter etc can it use fd2r or dc5 ones?are they similar?
later on will belanja sifus ciken rice laa...slightly up than apple/oranges...ehehe
 

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we have a taiko CL7R,...

his name is superman

6th gen and 7th gen jdm accord geng, many many sifu,... inside the sifu also got penghulu, presiden, akod-pilot, red sun.

k20aR,...

dc5r, fd2r, cl7r, ep3r,... same lah,... only different tuning and some different dimension at IM, etc,...


weih,...18xK for a CL7???
better buy used,... save 30 to 40k,... can use the $ to modd cantek cantek.

or use the money to buy 1 red CL1, one white cf4, one silver cf4k. Total get 13.5 wheels,... 12 + (3x 0.5 spare tires) :listen::burnout::burnout::burnout:
 

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so far i have only come across used CL7R twice... the first one a 2006 model that was on sale in 2007 for 206k complete with some mugen parts and then another one last year in MT... a 04 model asking for 16xk while unreg CL7s were selling for 15xk...

DMG told me once that they can order the car for you... put some deposit and then they'll search the car for you.

the one in NAZA... which one... in TTDI with mugen exhaust or in PJ. in PJ it's an 06 model explaining the high price... well in fact the high price is not really explicable in the first place
 

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the k20A engine is practically (almost) identical to the dc5's / ep3's ........ shares alot of common parts , and inter-swappable.

just worry more on the parts like the funny pins / links, especially in the undercarriage , lower arms, mounts, etc , which are not common with other Honda models.
 

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so far i have only come across used CL7R twice... the first one a 2006 model that was on sale in 2007 for 206k complete with some mugen parts and then another one last year in MT... a 04 model asking for 16xk while unreg CL7s were selling for 15xk...

DMG told me once that they can order the car for you... put some deposit and then they'll search the car for you.

the one in NAZA... which one... in TTDI with mugen exhaust or in PJ. in PJ it's an 06 model explaining the high price... well in fact the high price is not really explicable in the first place
bien says he know someone selling a white CL7R,... not superman,...

the k20A engine is practically (almost) identical to the dc5's / ep3's ........ shares alot of common parts , and inter-swappable.

just worry more on the parts like the funny pins / links, especially in the undercarriage , lower arms, mounts, etc , which are not common with other Honda models.
got funny pins ah?

use cable tie and uhu gum,...
 

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agreed....stay in stock condition no problem la. bro aja euro r also no engine modification but still can tapau evo n no major problems on the engine until now
hehehehe. My car tapau-ed my car ! pening!!
 

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i'd searched around and already found a few options...1 unreg unit year '04 selling for rm140k,a few '05 unit selling for approximately rm160k.are the prices reasonable?
1 more question,how many spec there is for CL7-R?like we know like civic/integra got Vi-RS,GSR,Si-R la,tip-R la,bla bla..
 

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i'd searched around and already found a few options...1 unreg unit year '04 selling for rm140k,a few '05 unit selling for approximately rm160k.are the prices reasonable?
1 more question,how many spec there is for CL7-R?like we know like civic/integra got Vi-RS,GSR,Si-R la,tip-R la,bla bla..
only one spec,...
 

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CL7 (Euro R, 20E, 20EL), CL9 (accord Type S 24S, 24T, 24TL).....

At malaysia most of them Euro R....didn't saw any CL9 yet
 
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CL7 (Euro R, 20E, 20EL), CL9 (accord Type S 24S, 24T, 24TL).....

At malaysia most of them Euro R....didn't saw any CL9 yet
I thought the CL-9 is also considered an euro-r ?
nope,...
thread starter asking abt CL7R,... only one spec,...

tim,... euro-r only got two types in the world,... one is the CL1 and the other is CL7,...
in europe got ATR, using same h22a as the CL1, but due to emmision constraints,... lesser output a bit.

abe bulet,... CL7E, EL, CL9 variants,... got,... but all embassy cars, etc,...
sell me ur CL1R cheap cheap lar,... u buy CL9 lahhh,... the 2.4 can stroke to 3.4,... makan all the other Rrrrrrr,...
 

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bro, is there any problem with car frm DMG?so far they offer the cheapest but it seems they finished their stocks already. The one in Naza i saw twice, once in TTDI another time in PJ, both also 2005 car black colour offer at RM180+k, discount only minimal amount. so far seem like CL7 is the optimum car for me as i travel a lot and it's 4 door.

bros, what is the power (hp) for CL9?? i got malaysia fren driving one in singapore. but somehow dunno the engine is high power one or same with local honda accord 2.4 which is 170/180hp..
 

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bro, is there any problem with car frm DMG?so far they offer the cheapest but it seems they finished their stocks already. The one in Naza i saw twice, once in TTDI another time in PJ, both also 2005 car black colour offer at RM180+k, discount only minimal amount. so far seem like CL7 is the optimum car for me as i travel a lot and it's 4 door.

bros, what is the power (hp) for CL9?? i got malaysia fren driving one in singapore. but somehow dunno the engine is high power one or same with local honda accord 2.4 which is 170/180hp..
i think same la....coz local accord tu, body je using honda inspire....inside, jantung, paru paru, buah pinggang all using CL7 n CL9. but...seems that inspire year 2002 n above in japan are made with 3000cc engine, so their body also big n heavy. but when the body masuk with 2400cc and 2000cc local accord, even u hav 180hp pun...cannot run properly la coz body heavy

abe fobs...my CL1 for sale rm130k. nak?kekekekek...ya la abe, Euro R CL7 got 1 type oni...
 

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recently i went to DMG and they said can bring in CL7 and price is cheaper than offered by Naza.they asked me what spec i want and they'll find it for me.but my concern now is the car quality from them...and also after sale service.the one at Naza showroom is in good condition and got 1 year warranty..but it cost me higher price.at DMG its cheaper,but only 1 month warranty and dunno the car condition since its still in japan...pening...pening...:confused:
 

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abe helmi

go to the japanese websites, and look at the cars available.

some have Navi, some dont.

some dont have visor, some have

some have spoiler, some dont.

nasiblah..
 

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bro, is there any problem with car frm DMG?so far they offer the cheapest but it seems they finished their stocks already. The one in Naza i saw twice, once in TTDI another time in PJ, both also 2005 car black colour offer at RM180+k, discount only minimal amount. so far seem like CL7 is the optimum car for me as i travel a lot and it's 4 door.

bros, what is the power (hp) for CL9?? i got malaysia fren driving one in singapore. but somehow dunno the engine is high power one or same with local honda accord 2.4 which is 170/180hp..
Modifications produced from 2002 (october)
Choose modification:
Spec.
# Modification Body type Drive Trans Fuel Displacement, cc Engine model Frame Price
1. 24TL Sedan FF AT Gasoline 2354 K24A LA-CL9 $20400
2. 24S Sedan FF AT Gasoline 2354 K24A LA-CL9 $19500
Displacement, cc 2354
Engine model K24A
Max.power (Net), kw(PS)/rpm 200 ps (147.10 kw) / 6800 rpm
Max.torque(Net), N*m(kg*m)/rpm 23.7 kg*m (232.42 N*m) / 4500 rpm

3. 20EL Sedan 4WD AT Gasoline 1998 K20A LA-CL8 $19500
4. 20E Sedan 4WD AT Gasoline 1998 K20A LA-CL8 $18200
5. 24t Sedan FF AT Gasoline 2354 K24A LA-CL9 $17900 6. 20EL Sedan FF AT Gasoline 1998 K20A UA-CL7 $17800
7. 20E Sedan FF AT Gasoline 1998 K20A UA-CL7 $16500

Modifications produced from 2002 (december)
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# Modification Body type Drive Trans Fuel Displacement, cc Engine model Frame Price
1. Euro R Sedan FF MT Gasoline 1998 K20A LA-CL7 $21000
Displacement, cc 1998
Engine model K20A
Max.power (Net), kw(PS)/rpm 220 ps (161.81 kw) / 8000 rpm
Max.torque(Net), N*m(kg*m)/rpm 21.0 kg*m (205.94 N*m) / 6000 rpm






CL7??

pening......
ko pening apabende???
tunggu posmen coming je,...
patient!

i think same la....coz local accord tu, body je using honda inspire....inside, jantung, paru paru, buah pinggang all using CL7 n CL9. but...seems that inspire year 2002 n above in japan are made with 3000cc engine, so their body also big n heavy. but when the body masuk with 2400cc and 2000cc local accord, even u hav 180hp pun...cannot run properly la coz body heavy

abe fobs...my CL1 for sale rm130k. nak?kekekekek...ya la abe, Euro R CL7 got 1 type oni...
mine rm118,888.88. price will be revised higher after CNY.

abe helmi

go to the japanese websites, and look at the cars available.

some have Navi, some dont.

some dont have visor, some have

some have spoiler, some dont.

nasiblah..
the navi for show show only,...
everyday i drive in the sea,...

dun worry,...
visor, sunroop, cf hood and trunk,... semua s'pore got,...
 

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me and superman have been driving into the sea since months on ends...
bien,...
later u, me and superman meet at 118N 78E near the kopitiam at the sulu sea mediterenean junction,... okie???

when i m 2 nautical miles away, my navi should go "dthunggggg!!!"
 

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tats the problem with the show show navi,everyday become pirate of the sulu...hehe.how bout the radio receiver?i think our frequency cant be received rite?can replace the radio set ka?otherwise i'll be listening to cd only boring laa...
 

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tats the problem with the show show navi,everyday become pirate of the sulu...hehe.how bout the radio receiver?i think our frequency cant be received rite?can replace the radio set ka?otherwise i'll be listening to cd only boring laa...
radio,... u can add in a convertor or something.
ascy shop / kedai abang got.

the jdm frequency is 78-89 i think,...
so u convert it up by 10,...

so ur 78 is actually 88
ur 89 is 99,...

something along that way.

or, pick out those cash bills,... tukar saje,.. double din, triple din,...
 

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dollah dollah bill yau!

Ya Fobs, we all set one TT in the middle of the laut.

The radio frequency is limted to 90MHz only, so you need a modulator.
 

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oo i see..how about the engine performance?since i never drive any k20a before.few more question to sifus:

1)when the car is in cruising speed,let say during 140-150kmh what is the engine rpm?how about climbing Genting,can beat genting taxi(nissan sentra) effortlessly ke...hehehe.bcoz all i'm worrying for vtec engine is the torque..

2)during test drive how can i check whether vtec operates properly?is there any vtec changeover sound like B series?or got indication lite one...

thanks guys..:adore::adore:
 

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oo i see..how about the engine performance?since i never drive any k20a before.few more question to sifus:

1)when the car is in cruising speed,let say during 140-150kmh what is the engine rpm?how about climbing Genting,can beat genting taxi(nissan sentra) effortlessly ke...hehehe.bcoz all i'm worrying for vtec engine is the torque..

2)during test drive how can i check whether vtec operates properly?is there any vtec changeover sound like B series?or got indication lite one...

thanks guys..:adore::adore:
1) dunno,... prolly abt 4k rpm or less,...
beat genting taxi? nope,... i think tyt ae86 with the driftking, can,... honda, cannot. (exclude ex5)

2) vtec roar, got (unless ur exhaust is super silent),... vtec pull, got.
vtec vtec if u are not used to it, ur ballz will shink for a couple of seconds, huhuhuuuuu!!!
lite,... dun hv, unless later u install.
 

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1) dunno,... prolly abt 4k rpm or less,...
beat genting taxi? nope,... i think tyt ae86 with the driftking, can,... honda, cannot. (exclude ex5)

2) vtec roar, got (unless ur exhaust is super silent),... vtec pull, got.
vtec vtec if u are not used to it, ur ballz will shink for a couple of seconds, huhuhuuuuu!!!
lite,... dun hv, unless later u install.
hehehe. Teksi Genting u no need to worry ler. U should be more worry when u meet this wira-lution.

Me last time kena tapau betul2 kat last corner uphill Genting. Siot betul!
 

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Me last time kena tapau betul2 kat last corner uphill Genting. Siot betul!

hehe...aja maybe that time u put so many chicks in ur car kot,so the car become heavy.but downhill should be fast enough la...ehehe.
 

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Bro highly recommend. 2 thumps up. Quite responsive & very very impresive top speed with jez simple mod. Got myself 1 late last year, the only problem is the car is fu****g hot, all the "penyangak" a.k.a loser love this car. My advise jez install gud alarm & not simply parking anywhere. Bout the parts no worries Singapore jez 1 day trip & there is always e-bay.
Gud luck to U bro...
 

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Bro highly recommend. 2 thumps up. Quite responsive & very very impresive top speed with jez simple mod. Got myself 1 late last year, the only problem is the car is fu****g hot, all the "penyangak" a.k.a loser love this car. My advise jez install gud alarm & not simply parking anywhere. Bout the parts no worries Singapore jez 1 day trip & there is always e-bay.
Gud luck to U bro...
what do u mean by "hot"?is it becoz of the seat?
coz mine really feel hot at the back when seat at the lekalo....

btw, u got 1 ka?red color eh?
 

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what do u mean by "hot"?is it becoz of the seat?
coz mine really feel hot at the back when seat at the lekalo....

btw, u got 1 ka?red color eh?
nop....i think bro didi driving black cl7 wrx XXXX...... bwtoi ka bro electro?????.....
 

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what do u mean by "hot"?is it becoz of the seat?
coz mine really feel hot at the back when seat at the lekalo....

btw, u got 1 ka?red color eh?
eh,... what hot?
 

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"Hot" mean prime target for steelling the interior things such seats, steering etc & da car itself...
Bro cat77 you're right...
 

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owh...hot tu ke..paham dah...
ya la...beri beri hot. but i think CL7 should be rare makhluk make it easy to identify if someone selling CL7 stuffs. compared to CL1 la.....

abe cat, how come u know abe electro nih?
abe electro, how many malaysian CL7 you know edi?
 

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owh...hot tu ke..paham dah...
ya la...beri beri hot. but i think CL7 should be rare makhluk make it easy to identify if someone selling CL7 stuffs. compared to CL1 la.....

abe cat, how come u know abe electro nih?
abe electro, how many malaysian CL7 you know edi?
from 'jejak kasih' slot la......hehehehe.....later if abe electro not buzy he will join our TT at putrajaya.....

abe electro, if the wheather clear tonite maybe i can collect the 'thing'.....later i'll call u....thanks
 

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owh...hot tu ke..paham dah...
ya la...beri beri hot. but i think CL7 should be rare makhluk make it easy to identify if someone selling CL7 stuffs. compared to CL1 la.....
ya la bang bulet...but i tot fd2r more hotter coz high demand on the parts nowadays,am i right?by the way i found 1 already...black color also.now waiting for puspakom and registration process...
i am thinking of replacing the timing belt(ada ka?or use chain one...im not sure hehe:hmmmm:) some times after getting the car.mileage displayed is around 40xxx km...is it neccessary?if so how much will be the estimated cost+labour and is there any recommended workshop around pj/subang/sunway area?
 

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40,xxxkm still ok.....no need change

but K20A use chain rite...no need to change the belt. when siap?(heheh..tak sabo)
 

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i see...if use chain then banyak lega ler.can save money for other things.the salesman said the car sould be ready by nextweek.for the moment ride on my 10 yr old kapcai to work la...huhuhu
 

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i see...if use chain then banyak lega ler.can save money for other things.the salesman said the car sould be ready by nextweek.for the moment ride on my 10 yr old kapcai to work la...huhuhu
congrats soon to be new owner of CL7R,...!!!
make sure u join join geng cf4/cl1 and havoc ye?
 

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sure will bros...

do u guys ever heard of website that we can cross refer our car chassis number?there we can check the actual year of production,spec etc...i'd heard about it from my fren but cant recall the address ler..
 

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hi,does anyone can help me on this one...

theres a 'card' word and battery symbol(not car battery,its like AA battery symbol i guess..and it shows low batt indication like on our handphone) keep blinking on speedometer display during engine running..i reckon it could be related to keyless entry system that comes with the car,maybe.

the question is what does it indicate and is it normal or abnormal...
in the user manual i can 'see' the explanation but can't 'read'...hehe.all in japs.
 

bien335

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keyless start bro.

my mum's odyssey also says that, since the battery is running low.

battery sebijik RM20 (in japan)

since then, use normal kunci only.

Jalan Pasar is said to have these batteries.

CR2012, 3V coin battery.
 

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thanks bien...

from now on i'll be using normal kunci only la...afraid ma i could be ended up stranded anywhere bcoz d engine x mau start :driver:
 

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no hal la bro....that thing used on morning2 when wanna panaskan engine jek. really helpful for snowing country like japan...