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Will Izso buy a good car???

Discussion in 'Car Talk' started by LimauKanker, Dec 24, 2018.

  1. parakey

    parakey Senior Member
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    Since price isnt cheap and you already have Mark X in the list, I think we can safely ignore this.

    The hot favorite among those polled. Not really that much outside of your budget

    No longer in consideration

    It's priced attractively, well maintained and rides well; just not a touge car. Will keep you out of trouble and who here thinks Volvos arent safe cars? It's a lot of car for the price of 10K.

    Not the car that didnt age well. More a case of cheap owners

    Can consider if you're a die hard classic car fan. Are you?

    This looks like your new hot favorite
     
  2. parakey

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    Damn, now I feel like buying a Volvo S80
     
  3. 6UE5t

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    Woohooo Mark X in the lead! Unfortunately your budget is too low for me otherwise I'd offer mine already. :biggrin:

    Btw just in case you don't know yet before you choose this car, maybe I'd need to tell you also 1 thing I dislike about it but cannot do anything about it which is the auto gearbox behavior when in Sport/tiptronic mode:
    1. It's quite laggy/slow to change gear. But this is a conventional torque converter AT after all so yeah like that. So when trying to push it hard, I need to hit my paddle shift or shift knob just a few hundred rpms before red line otherwise I will hit the rev limiter due to the late action of the gear engagement.
    2. Even if you select a specific gear, say 4th, it can still downshift on it's own if it feels the gear is too high. So it's not 100% in your control.
    3. When you switch from normal AT mode to Tiptronic, instead of continuing in the same gear, by default it selects either 5th (for non facelift 2004-2006 model) or 4th (for facelift model 2007-2009).
    other weaknesses like brakes, handling, and power, you can still improve them but this AT behavior is stuck with the car.
     
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  4. sweelt

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    Penang tezza ... msg me, we pusing at balik pulau. hahaha..
     
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  5. alcyon

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    This is more or less older AT transmission "disease".
     
  6. sweelt

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    ur bimmer sell to izso ....:rofl:
     
  7. parakey

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    Knn .. I cannot tambah without selling, meh?
     
  8. ixeo

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    Which bimmer you got. New addition?

    The BMW E39, avoid the 2.8L like the plague, those are the old ones.

    The Tezza Z vs E39, both different type of vehicle. So really depends what you want. I'd skip the Corolla, the Camry and the Mark X.
     
  9. sweelt

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    can can ....sorry
     
  10. parakey

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    Old stock bimmer. Takda JZ one
     
  11. vr2turbo

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    This JZ thing still stuck in here......lol
     
  12. Izso

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    You do that.. and sell me your E46.... please. Pretty pretty please. I'll throw in free Volvo detailing for you too.

    I just finished watching Kon's E39 journey and I'm quite frightened by the suspension replacement costs. Jeez.. why can't them Germans make anything easy?

    Ok so no 2.8. That kinda limits the cars I can see. I've only seen two 2.5L and both had a lot of issues I suspect I'd bitch a lot about.
     
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    omg.. this is very Sylphy-ish. I hated that Sylphy for this kind of reaction and the MarkX is similar. The likelihood of me getting one is getting slimmer by the minute.
     
  14. parakey

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    Bilstein B4s or the oem Sachs arent that expensive.

    What's wrong with the M52TU? There's not much difference with the M54 and the M52TU doesn't have the oil burning issues
     
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    I don't know. I'm doing research now to see whats the difference. But apart from that - I suspect the power difference isn't much hence not worth the road tax.

    It isn't Bilstein or Sach issue - they cost about RM1500-1600 from BA. Workmanship to install is the scary one, to install the rear the entire back seat, parcel shelf, everything has to come out. Considering the age of the car - I suspect a lot of broken clips and stuff will happen.
     
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    Much easier to replace for an e46. No trim removal required.

    M52TU vs M54. Afaik, there's little difference apart from the DBW. Hard to visually spot the difference.Perhaps Ixeo can elaborate
     
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    Yeah, this is the main weakness that I really don't like about the car, typical of older AT technology like mentioned by Alcyon I suppose. Even DSG also still have a bit of that laggy reaction and this is over 10 yrs old AT so yeah. Having said that I doubt its as bad as your Sylphy and I'm already adjusted to it so I still can quite enjoy Genting drive with it. Anyway most of the time when you just let it in full auto mode for daily drive it's no issues also as it shifts nicely as expected. For me also to counter the need to change gears as often, I have changed my final gear from 4.1 to 4.6 together with a Torsen LSD so it feels better.
     
  18. ixeo

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    No real difference between the M52TU vs M54. But in terms of road tax costs, no reason to pick the M52TU 2.8L over the M54 2.5L. Sure the torque is higher on the 2.8L, again, for daily driving no need. Not a huge difference really at 35nM peak torque difference. Sure the curve is higher across.

    More importantly the M54 comes in the LCI models with the angel eyes and the Hella CELIS lightbar rear lamps, THAT’S what you want. The E39 that looks legendary.
     
  19. ixeo

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    Stick? With an in-line six?
    More cylinders than my cruiser. Sad me.
     
  20. ixeo

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    Hi

    I would like to introduce you to the god and savior of automatic torque converter transmissions

    The ZF 8 speed transmission. First time I drove it was in a F30 316i and boy did the transmission mask the puny engine and heavy body well. Smooth, fast and responsive. DSG “feels” more engaging in spirited driving, and surely its faster, but guess what? The ZF has no jerk at crawling speeds.
     

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