Suzuki Swift vs Suzuki Swift Sport

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  1. tykoh

    tykoh Senior Member
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    i think there must be a lot of hassle to TC a swift...
    NA mod or SC will be great for swift i believe...
     
  2. kenken

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    t/c or s/c not much difference la... you still need to custom alot of parts unless you buy the s/c or t/c kit from japan/taiwan.

    n/a is good la.. but expensive and no parts in m'sia? especially in ipoh....
     
  3. raptorie54

    raptorie54 Senior Member
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    i totally agreed. that chassis of sss is concerntrated for total handling. i think it still handles gud up to 160whp. anything above 160whp will end up only for straight line. moreover, is ff car n its lightweight. incredible power will coz understeer n will lost the fun of the car.

    my next project will be greddy easy cam. any1 from malaysia or singapore tried this cam?
     
  4. kenken

    kenken Senior Member
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    hehehe... yeah i was told that the swift is kinda 'tail-happy'..
    greddy cams?? how much is it gonna cost??
     
  5. oinkoink

    oinkoink 5 Year | Silver

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    Greddy cams is a very mild cams not even 0.5 stage... give quite a bit of improve between 3-5k but after that nothing much.... is only 256 deg cams..... price wise i find its not worth it cost about 1.2-1.5k sgd with just the cams... give about 8-10bhp increase. the only good thing is you do not require a standalone to run this cams. installation will be cheaper since no need to change anything else just the cams.

    Rrp's cams is better 264 deg give you increase from 4k-8k rpm.... it cost about 3k sgd with all the valves, valve spring, cams, gasket to raise compression to 11.6, retianer or so call valve seat. this cams give about 15bhp increase. require standalone or send the ECU back to japan for reflash. my advice is go for standlone like mircotech LT10s or haltech 1000. installatino will be more expensive since you need to reset almost everything for the head.

    cost of sending the ecu back to japan reflash is about 1.5k sgd... so not much different from LT10s or Haltech1000.

    my project next year will be monster piston 12.2 compression, rrp's 264 deg cams with all valve spring and valve change. next project in line will be customize intake manifold with 64-70mm cable throttle body.
     
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  6. alv

    alv 5 Year | Silver

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    Hi there,
    Stumbled on this forum and I happen to be driving a manual SSS. Good that you've chosen to buy the Swift Sport, I hope you went for the manual version. Real driving enthusiast only drive manual cause you want total control and total fun! If you want an auto drive, just go get the 1.5

    I have so far clocked in about 5k km and can share some of my experiences.
    There are huge differences between the swift 1.5 and the swift sport 1.6, to begin with the SSS's chassis is different. Just open the hood and compare the welding, you'll see the ones that come from Japan uses the latest in welding robotics, its zig zag pattern it seems increases strength and stiffness and you can feel the diff when you drive it.

    The high revving 1.6 engine is the same as the ones they use to modify for the JWRC races. So it's highly tunable and you'd expect a much more robust and reliable engine and gearbox.
    To really enjoy the SSS's drive, you have to go beyond 4000 rpm, that's when you experience the pure joy of driving an SSS, the perfect combination of power, handling and speed all working together. You'll know it when you get yours. Just think of it as a high revving motorbike engine (think Suzuki Hayabusa....haha)

    This car is made not to be the fastest drag car around, it's about fun and handling all with a sense of confidence and safety (6 airbags, actually 8 points). But don't get me wrong, this car is quick... depends on how heavy your right foot is. The dunlop tyres on the car are high end ones, so don't go changing it until you've had some fun.

    To me this is the best fun you can get on the road per cc or even per ringgit and I mean only the manual version. Hell, according to the 'infamous' Jeremy Clarkson, it drives even better than the mini and cost a lot less. You won't regret this buy.

    Be safe, be alert....have fun!
     
  7. oinkoink

    oinkoink 5 Year | Silver

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    JWRC engine is different from this engine... JWRC have a shorter stroke and a biggger bore. the shorter stroke you had the higher rev the engine can go....
    JWRC is producing 200 over bhp on 1.6 engine with rev limit of 9k. dun expect this engine to do the same.......

    swift sport is a good handling car but under power....... if you are able to bring the power to 140-160 whp will be great car for time attack for 1.6l
     
  8. dfx16

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    I need power to reach the next traffic light fast so i can take pole position :ridinghorse:

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    I think good TC setup are more ex

    1. JE forge piston
    2. Eagle forge conrod
    3. ARP head stud
    4. RS cams
    5. Garrett GT25
    6. ARC intercooler
    7. Blitz BOV
    8. Walbro fuel pump
    9. 550cc injectors
    10. Sard fuel regulator
    11. Fuel return line
    12. Fuel rail
    13. Custom header (usually cost more ex than NA)

    Forget abt the HKS kit
    Nothing fancy, esp the way it run its piping
    The only attractive is its GT25 turbo
    ZC31S @ 0.6b it does 208bhp takenote its not whp hor...
    Entry level @ 0.3b it does 176bhp again takenote its not whp hor..
    http://www.hks-power.co.jp/db/product/files/11001-AS001_003/11001-AS001_003.pdf

    I suggest dont waste money on that lah
    Total waste of time and effort

    If want play turbo go custom
    Find a good workshop and start from there

    Or if u want invest good TC setup
    Better still invest in NA!
     
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  9. kenken

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    alv : thanks for the your opinion... its really a fun.. i know...

    oinkoink : 160whp N/A requires a lot of mods..... not easy.. have you ever thought of doing pp and itb?

    dfx16 : wah... that list of mod is a 'complete' bolt on turbo.... malaysians do things in simple way.. bolt on turbo also very simple.... for ex:
    (1) turbocharger
    (2) banana
    (3) injectors
    (4) bov
    (5) fuel pump
    (6) safc
    (7) intercooler and pipings (sometimes not even intercooled)

    btw, this is just example only...... i'm just trying to tell that here... bot can be as simple as this... hehe.. and risky also la..
     
  10. tykoh

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    kenken... i tot you are checking out the NA mod fr T-R?
    You may also want to check out the TSD 1900cc NA Swift mod with 160bhp...
     
  11. kenken

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    koh : im still learning mar... see which side is better mar..... boosted or not boosted... hehe.. .t-r doesnt really give a very clear explanation bout his products.. giving me alot of question marks...

    tsd is way over budget la.... sigh.. i ngam ngam can afford this car only... gave up all my savings d...

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    tsd is 13k right?
     
  12. raptorie54

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    wow....the Rrp's cam sounds sweet!!! are they selling in singapore?

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    well said..... we can easily find videos or articles thru websites talking abt how outstanding is this sss. even some extreme comparison with higher class performance car. summary is sss is an all round kicker. power is not the only point to become winner. for example bugatti veron has the most power (1000hp) in this planet but it is not the nurburgring record holder. nurburgring lap-time records:- Nürburgring lap times - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
  13. vyruzj

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    Haha... i see some SCM members here n oso some from Sg... Me drive SSS MT white :)

    60k kms liao still stock... hehe no budget to mod... not much major issue.. only got minor sound problem coming from the rear.

    Great handling and yea... abit underpowered, but i still love it! ;)
     
  14. tykoh

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    haha... welcome to ZTH.... recently there are lots of ppl buying swift... our family is growing... :biggrin:
     
  15. kenken

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    wow.. alot of sss also ar.. i wonder how much sss are there in malaysia....
     
  16. opp61

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    Bud

    I drive a SSS Manual too. Totally agree with everything you say.

    This car is a complete package. Love it!!
     
  17. ckyee22

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    everytime overtaking 2.0cc normal NA car in corner..SSS give me so much fun..:proud:
    some of the normal 2.0 cc car try to bully small car like SSS, but at the end ..end up eat dust in corner....:aetsch:
     
  18. kenken

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    haha..... sss can go 2l also mar
     
  19. raptorie54

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    2ltr? which company offering that? so far i've heard is TSD 1.9 kit. if sss with 2ltr machine at its weight n handling can compete fd2r.
     
  20. oinkoink

    oinkoink 5 Year | Silver

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    difficult lar... FD2R can go 2.4L ley... :sleep::sleep:
     

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