Saga FL 1.3 (M) | Need Standard Modding Advice

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  1. Lunatic Rider

    Lunatic Rider New Member

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    Hello sifu's,

    I am interested in leveling up my FL, and have a roadmap in mind.
    Hope sifu's can give me guidance on where to get the parts and where to get magic hand mechanics :)

    Basically I am looking at daily driving improvement, and a little bit of Kuala Klawang'ing :D
    No forced induction, just wanna improve the N/A Campro. I'd like replace some of the OEM parts with better aftermarket stuff, improving the basic functions and drive-ability. Looking towards Heavy Duty parts rather than R racing parts.

    (I know things can google, but I prefer hearing from people who have experience in doing this to get better feedback)

    Roadmap.
    Pure copper grounding cables:
    1.I heard welding cables are the best, does bro TitanRev still provide D.I.Y services for these?
    Or any clue where on what good brands to get and where to get?
    2.Voltage Regulator. I've heard arguments that these can be useless and give no improvement, and some people say they get increased performance. Any ideas?

    Spark Plugs:
    1.Good heavy duty spark plugs?
    2.If I am planning to do a 1.6 stroker kit upgrade in the future, what are the recommended Spark Plugs for that? I have Iridiums in mind.

    Steel braided Hoses for the front + better brake pads:
    1.Any recommendation for reliable brands? And how much they roughly cost?
    2.Rear Brakes will remain drum, any recommendation for better shoes?
    3.Is it necessary to change the standard FL rotors to accommodate the better brake pads?

    Springs:
    1. Heavy Duty springs. My friend recommended D2 HD springs, are they reliable?

    Short Throw Shifter:
    1. Which would be better, D.I.Y the OEM shifter? or getting an aftermarket one, if so what are some reliable models?

    Fuel Pressure Regulator:
    1. Is this necessary as the FL already has this? Will it require an upgrade if going for 1.6 stroker?

    Fuel Filter:
    1. Denso or Bosch?

    Change Radiator Hoses to Silicone:
    1. Probably gonna go for Samco

    Front/Rear Stabilizer Bar + Front Strut Bar:
    1. I guess only UR, got any others?

    Air Filter:
    1.OEM air intake with BMC air filter.


    Thats about it for now. Hope to get some good feedback from you sifu's :D

     
  2. gunnerzz

    gunnerzz Well-Known Member

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    This was my BLM setup when i worked at Kuala Pilah and the feedback.

    1.Proride sport spring + stock absorber.
    -i wont recommend sport spring with stock absorber.its just nor suitable for slow drive and shorten the absorber lifespa.At higher than normal speed, the car is flat and not to bumpy.Good for above legal speed highway run.

    2.Trestor semi metallic pads.
    -The hotter ot gets, the better it perform but this model still fade after 1/2 way downhill all out at Bukit Putus.i am using the same front pad for my Waja but did not encounter fade issues. Could be the BLM has bad air cooling flow to the brakes, after all its not design for such torture.
    On the rear brakes, just get it adjusted properly...its tedious job but worth the time. Last time i adjusted until only 1 click of the handbrake and the braking is a lot more assuring. My rear shoe has always been stock replacement.

    3.Front upper strut bar, front lower 4 point bar, rear ARB.
    -Even on stock suspension u will have better steering response & feedback. Body roll is in check. Coupled with sport suspension its flat on corners. Get better rubber and u can push harder. With sport suspension, i can keep up with a stock neo 1.6 on corner as i know i can brake later and the front end will still bite even if u are still braking when entering the corner. If u are going for sport suspension,be careful with the front lower 4 point bar....easily got scrape.

    4.Open pod with DIY heatshield (Simota)
    -Better response and the noise to go with.Now i have removed it and get a drop in unit from works engineering if not mistaken.more or less the same effect minus the frequent cleaning interval and syiok sound.

    5.Grounding + diy voltage stabiliser.
    -Just smoother drive, thats it. U can DIY by buying welding cable and the terminal.

    6.Iridium plugs.
    -not worth the price.i got it cheap that time so why not. Platinum plugs is good enough and a lot cheaper.smoother drive, thats it.

    Things i wish i have done is a complete exhaust system.

    Things i would highly recommend for u to get is the 1.6 stroker...No replacement for displacement.

    For fuel filter, just get ori unit from known brand. The hoses, i will keep it stock.My stock hose is still on my engine since....i forgot already how long.
     
  3. vr2turbo

    vr2turbo 5 Year | Silver
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    This one just follow bro. TitanRev mod......lol
     
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  4. sanekit

    sanekit Well-Known Member

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    ya. can go TT meet up with titanrev in seremban. hehe
     
  5. Izso

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    You probably have come across this before :

    http://www.racenotrice.com/titanrevdiysaga.html

    I've driven this car and it's super light, very easy to drive and corners like it's on rails. Personally since you're going Kuala Kelawanging you should focus more on the handling aspect of the FLX.
     
  6. sweelt

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    going to say this also....lol
     
  7. Lunatic Rider

    Lunatic Rider New Member

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    Thank you so much for the feedback guys.

    Yes I have seen the article, but some of the stuff is a bit 'heavy'. Since I'm still new to car D.I.Y, my experience so far was only motorcycles.
    And since I work on 24/7 shifts, and mostly work nights and sleep in the day, having the chance for a meet-up would be low for me.(Still would be nice.)

    Hence i'm starting with this basic roadmap. Will be putting in stuff every 3-4 months. This will be in phases.


    Parts for (October18-December18) Phase 1:
    BMC Drop-in filter
    Pro RS Steel Braided Hose + Project u PMU brake pads
    BMW E50 Short Shifter (A friend recommended this, have to DIY a bit)

    This is costlier but I never like to underestimate the importance of brakes.

    Looking forward for any more suggestions you guys have.


     
  8. sanekit

    sanekit Well-Known Member

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    your car still using stock exhaust? if so, i would suggest u decat, change the headers and mufflers, and also change drop in filters. get 1.6flx throttle body as well.

    the stock brake hose if car still new i dont think it's necessary to upgrade it. unless u wanna track the car hard. pmu brake pads, make sure it's original.
     
  9. Lunatic Rider

    Lunatic Rider New Member

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    The car is 7 years old. I asked PMU people from PMU FB Page, apparently they dont have brake pads for Saga FL, funny they have it for Waja/Satria/Persona
    Might need to consider other good quality pad brands.

    Yes exhaust is still standard.If I decat, then when doing Puspakom in the future will there be issues? Or need to put the cat back when going for Inspection.
     
  10. vr2turbo

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    So far the catcon is not a must yet, but you will never know what will happen in future. To be safe, probably you can store up your old catcon....
     
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  11. sanekit

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    i'm using trestor advantage on my wira. i cant suggest any pads brand for your saga. i do read good reviews for Rapid Stop brake pads. can ask @TitanRev sifu to suggest.

    nope. like @vr2turbo said it's not compulsory yet. for puspakom, you can always add a few hundred bucks for a runner to go for u. confirm pass. hahaha
     
  12. vr2turbo

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    Seems like Trestor Advantage in new packing are available already....
     
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  13. sanekit

    sanekit Well-Known Member

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    serious ah? gonna go and get my supply. haha
     
  14. DNGFashion

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    Mind sharing where to get them please?
     
  15. sanekit

    sanekit Well-Known Member

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    i havent asked the spare part shop i usually go to. u can call FMP malaysia at this number 03 8081 7307 and ask where's the nearest parts shop for you.
     
  16. vr2turbo

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    Saw bro. Izso post in FB, that his friend bought and is in new packing.....
     
  17. sanekit

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    a friend just checked it's not in stock yet. the photo @Izso shared was sponsored pads. hehe.
     
  18. LimauKanker

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    im not sifu, never will be, i just like to poke around and give people my biased opinion. hope you find a thing or two here interesting or useful.

    Pure copper grounding cables:
    Arguable, but i wouldn't bother unless you have ICE or ridiculous amount of accesories



    Spark Plugs:
    1.Good heavy duty spark plugs?
    I'd go for Stock because your engine is stock, no compression increase or anything.


    2.If I am planning to do a 1.6 stroker kit upgrade in the future, what are the recommended Spark Plugs for that? I have Iridiums in mind.

    Iridium or not, not much performance gain, might need to get cooler plugs if you're stroking it, im not very sure if the compression increase if you stroke a campro also, better leave this to TitanRev


    Steel braided Hoses for the front + better brake pads:
    1.Any recommendation for reliable brands? And how much they roughly cost?

    ProRS are pretty decent, 400-500, dont know SST got increase price or not (TQ Pakatan Harapan)

    2.Rear Brakes will remain drum, any recommendation for better shoes?

    Dont really have to bother with brake shoes

    3.Is it necessary to change the standard FL rotors to accommodate the better brake pads?

    Get what they suggested up top, Tresticle Blue brakepads

    Springs:
    1. Heavy Duty springs. My friend recommended D2 HD springs, are they reliable?

    Please dont, unless you dont care about setup or handling, you may go ahead, im an avid hater for sport springs. Unless you're using some Improve Shock + Spring set, please dont F up the shocks and spring combination.

    Short Throw Shifter:
    1. Which would be better, D.I.Y the OEM shifter? or getting an aftermarket one, if so what are some reliable models?

    just get an aftermarket one unless you know what and how to mod or you have a reliable person who know how to modify the OEM shifter

    Fuel Pressure Regulator:
    1. Is this necessary as the FL already has this? Will it require an upgrade if going for 1.6 stroker?

    Nah, not really actually, decent FPR is going to set you back about 800, but works one will work, they're like 400? iinm

    Fuel Filter:
    1. Denso or Bosch?

    original proton replacement

    Change Radiator Hoses to Silicone:
    1. Probably gonna go for Samco

    Please dont, there're no original samco in malaysia, and even if they do, original samco are 150-200 per piece. (people who get original please enlighten me as well as im looking for a variety of original samco hose)
    might as well just use the original replacement.

    Front/Rear Stabilizer Bar + Front Strut Bar:
    1. I guess only UR, got any others?

    no comment as im not a fan of f-ing up people's preference, but i can tell you what every bar do/affect.

    Air Filter:
    1.OEM air intake with BMC air filter.

    pretty decent choice
     
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  20. sanekit

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    eh, the saga FL fuel system is returnless right? i think i remember @TitanRev talking about him modding the thing just to install an adjustable fuel pressure regulator. or maybe i'm wrong.
     

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