Retreat! -Review: R3 Satria

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  1. tatatititututoto

    tatatititututoto Senior Member
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    btw can the standard satria 1.3 be spot welded to be the same as the R3?

    is the body kit of the R3 the same as the SGTI?

    the car looks more garang than the SGTI... but i wonder bout the handling...
     
  2. nikkivec

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    only black color avaiable for sale [/b][/quote]
    oO...
    white color tht rims look better :P
     
  3. god

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    errrr, sifus out there, can someone tell me what is spotweld??
     
  4. ninja_iga

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    see the circular round flat spots on the metal?
    that's a spot weld, with many others next to it.

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    if those sceptics dunno if this R3 Satria's handling isn't better that of a Satria GTI i dunno what to say...

    in Sepang the R3 Satria records something like 6+secs faster than SGTi
     
  5. InitialD

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    see the circular round flat spots on the metal?
    that's a spot weld, with many others next to it.

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    if those sceptics dunno if this R3 Satria's handling isn't better that of a Satria GTI i dunno what to say...

    in Sepang the R3 Satria records something like 6+secs faster than SGTi [/b][/quote]
    Ninja, would a GTi fitted with Titan suspension out-handle the R3? :D
     
  6. prozac

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    Hahah choose your reply wisely!

    But allow me to give a temp answer;

    It's hard to say if Titan will outhandle the R3's stock suspension, because each Titan owner has different settings. So the setting MAY or MAY NOT be better than the SR3's. But if Titan wanted to create a kick-ass setting for the satria, I'm sure they already have ;)

    About the buying a Honda part, I'd love any Type-R Honda. But for several reasons I won't buy one;

    1) I'd rather support R3 than the AP holders (at least R3 puts some REAL sweat into their products)
    2) I don't dig 2nd hand cars or excessive modification (ECU included)
    3) Even if I could afford one new, the price to performance ratio is not worth it
    4) You don't get to yum cha with the Type-R engineers ;)
     
  7. ninja_iga

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    ahahhaahha

    aiyo
    this is of course very very subjective
    even if anyone's tuning can outhandle the R3 Satria, comfort (relative to R3's) will be compromised as hell

    i'm pretty sure R3 boys did their homework.
    *respect*
     
  8. tatatititututoto

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    so can a normal ordinary satria be spotwelded? or is it already spotwelded?
     
  9. putra_dreamin

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    Urm.. Im interested in buying a car as im selling off my old iswara.

    Does anyone know abt the financing requirements? How much downpayment is needed? Any suitable financing?

    Where should I go for booking? From what I enquired, can only book/buy the R3 at proton edar dealers. Is that true?

    As I dun think I can meet the 10%(8k?) downpayment requirement, is there any option that I can look into? How much are the owners currently paying per month?

    Im a nooB here, so if i asked something out of hand, do forgive me. Just very interested in the R3 though would prefer a putra still =D

    Cheers and thanks for any info!!
     
  10. prozac

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    If meeting the downpayment is a problem, then it's not a wise decision to even consider the car at all. Seriously, if I were you, I'd look at the re-launched Putra, priced at RM68k. If you're lucky, there might be still a unit or two at the PE in Selayang. It may not be an R3 drive, but Putras are their own bag of sweets altogether. Grab it while you still can.
     
  11. Crash

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    hey putra_d,

    The downpayment is RM7,888 but a booking via Proton Edar Website is required. A RM2000 booking fee using a credit card is needed, and this will be deducted from the 10% downpayment as mentioned.

    The loan is supplied by Bumiputera Commerce Finance @ 3.75% interest for 9 years. This translates to around RM880/month loan settlement.

    Trading in the old iswara would help reduce the final number and also the total downpayment, depending on the value of your old car.

    Hope this helps.
     
  12. Crash

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    Actually I would just buy a second hand 98-99 Putra. The old stock Putras at PE don't come with Recaros and the other goodies. Not worth the RM68K price tag I reckon. I really wonder why they still have stock.
     
  13. G3-X

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    R3 (Race Rally Research) Proton Tuner maaa....

    like...

    Nissan --> Impul, NISMO

    Mazda --> Mazdaspeed

    Toyota --> TRD (Toyota Racing Development)

    Honda --> Mugen

    MItsubishi --> Ralliiart

    Subaru --> STi (Subaru Technica International)

    Mercedes --> Kleeman, AMG, Brabus, Carlsson

    BMW --> Ac Schnitzer

    Ferrari --> Michelotto

    Porsche --> Kremer Bros

    Ford --> Jack Roush Racing

    p/s: Proton --> Kedai Potong... miahaha :lol:
     
  14. putra_dreamin

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    Thanks guys fer the info.. Guess will have to go with a putra then. Will they come out with an R3 putra? Coz one of the development cars is a putra right? if i'm not mistaken.

    Anyway, can other car owners (other than the R3) join the R3 TT session ? :P

    jus kiddin.. haha
     
  15. Crash

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    Yes, well done G3-X.

    I hope R3 has plans to come out, with guns-ablazing, as a full-fledged tuner in the near future. I believe it has the expertise to do so.
     
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    R3 has commented that it will not develop a Putra R3 simply because it is an old platform and no longer in production. Although I would have loved to see a Putra R3, and would certainly buy one in place of the Satria R3.

    But you know what? Never say never :P
     
  17. lozo

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    putra r3 ? i believe i can be done..not even by the r3 engineers. by our local house tuners, and i believe i will be better than the satria r3

    coz r3 satria is out, ppl can blueprint its specification a-z and place it to another platform, e.g putra, and find any flaws on it and make a better vehicle.
     
  18. glee

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    what you get in the R3 in terms of handling, is all the work and effort gone into tuning the car. T.Djan himself spent hours and hours tuning it. It doesn't matter if you have TEIN, or GAB or etc.. its not the brand or the type of exotic metal bits your suspension is made out of that gives the performance, but by the human element who decides on spring rates, and damping, and anti roll bar rates..etc.

    a good example is the bmw M division. They have at their disposal, tonnes of high-tech equipment to build their M cars. But at the end of the day, the deciding factor is their M test drivers, and that good old "butt dyno" that decides on the final setup.

    i believe an R3 buyer is someone who wants to get performance, in a brand new car, with the least possible hassle and within a reasonable budget. With R3 doing all the work , a prospective owner doesnt need to do any guess work on how to mod his car. There just simply isn't a car that does what the R3 can do, at the budget, and for brand new. thats a fact that you can't argue with. If you dont like it, you dont buy it. simple.
     
  19. Crash

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    what you get in the R3 in terms of handling, is all the work and effort gone into tuning the car. T.Djan himself spent hours and hours tuning it. It doesn't matter if you have TEIN, or GAB or etc.. its not the brand or the type of exotic metal bits your suspension is made out of that gives the performance, but by the human element who decides on spring rates, and damping, and anti roll bar rates..etc.

    a good example is the bmw M division. They have at their disposal, tonnes of high-tech equipment to build their M cars. But at the end of the day, the deciding factor is their M test drivers, and that good old "butt dyno" that decides on the final setup.

    i believe an R3 buyer is someone who wants to get performance, in a brand new car, with the least possible hassle and within a reasonable budget. With R3 doing all the work , a prospective owner doesnt need to do any guess work on how to mod his car. There just simply isn't a car that does what the R3 can do, at the budget, and for brand new. thats a fact that you can't argue with. If you dont like it, you dont buy it. simple. [/b][/quote]
    Well said glee. It's getting slightly exhausting hearing the 'other tuners can do it, and better too' and 'we can take a 1.3 base car and make it better than the R3' kind of claims. Yes, they are all possible. If you have deep pockets you can have the 'bestest' car in the world. No one can match a modder with lots of dosh.

    But again, fellas, the SR3 is a brand-new, performance-tuned, affordable machine, bred from out of the R3 factory, backed by a manufacturer. Please name a competitor product with similar specs and price point. A Type-R? Pay a whole lot more. A Ford Lynx RS? You pay a whole lot more, and will still get you ass whipped by the SR3! Come on peeps, look at the big picture. Look at the package.

    Criticise, insult all you want, but back it up with facts. R3 has shown that they listen to its customers, so if you have test-driven, and experienced the SR3 and have things to say about it, let them know so they can build a better car.

    The SR3 has its faults, however minor, but I can attest to its performance, its handling, its presence and styling. It's all good. Have no regrets whatsoever on my purchase. Moving from my 1.8 Persona is a positive step up. Go ask other SR3 owners and they will tell it as it is. No point lying. And no point misleading others. We do not blindly support the SR3, but we appreciate it for what it is and what it stands for. And we believe in what it could be in the near future.

    Here's to more modding, driving and an even better SR3!
     
  20. DEX

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    I guess its ok for a new 13 yrs old car with a few hop up bits.. :unsure: and probably be the great compared to what is on the market (like none..) but if taxes werent an issue we be looking at a whole lot of modern go faster hatches like a clio 182, ctr, 206 gti...
     

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