Petrol car or diesel car (2nd hand)

[parakey]

Thats the love-hate relationship he is experiencing. Later if or when he get a cushy car he will miss the solid ride of the Iriz..heheheh

Yup, he likely wont like an older Vios or City. Unsure how much the new Vios has improved. Havent rode one yet

 

[vr2turbo]

Hihihi...i would luv to see that day.
I bet u will own at least 2 ride with totally opposite character and die2 said u loved them both. Even when u said its rubbish, u will still keep driving it.

That is why I have a comfortable family ride for my wife, then another opposite ride for my own......lol

 

[DNGFashion]

I thought Iriz has good handling. Why do you dislike it? CVT? Poor NVH?

1) I love the firm suspension, but it is too stiff - bouncing and body motion everywhere. I wonder if proton has performed pre-loading adjustment on the stock suspension. Body roll is present even with aftermarket anti roll bar installed. If one takes corners like a champion over rumble strips and expansion gaps of the highway, be prepared to have it skip a few beat and sometimes having its rear coming out slightly.

2) I hate the side mirrors because they have huge blind spots.

3) Rubber band effect of the CVT. It poses a threat when you want to overtake or exit a junction.

4) Total cost of ownership including service maintenance and parts replacement doesn't reflect the status of a local car for the masses.

However, only my passengers love it because of its rear seats that have good thigh support and headrests.

 

[parakey]

1) I love the firm suspension, but it is too stiff - bouncing and body motion everywhere. I wonder if proton has performed pre-loading adjustment on the stock suspension. Body roll is present even with aftermarket anti roll bar installed. If one takes corners like a champion over rumble strips and expansion gaps of the highway, be prepared to have it skip a few beat and sometimes having its rear coming out slightly..

It's odd if stock is skipping. Did you change the springs or is it caused by your aftermarket ARBs?

 

[gunnerzz]

It's odd if stock is skipping. Did you change the springs or is it caused by your aftermarket ARBs?

He is going too fast.
same thing happened to my blm when it was equipped with rear arb and still on stock susoension.

 

[parakey]

He is going too fast.
same thing happened to my blm when it was equipped with rear arb and still on stock susoension.

So you're saying it's simply understeer?

 

[gunnerzz]

So you're saying it's simply understeer?

Rear end hopping.

 

[parakey]

Rear end hopping.

Sorry, I dont quite understand why the rear should hop when he isnt braking

 

[DNGFashion]

with or without ARB, it is the same. Well it isn't that fast as per say (less or equal 50km/h) for long turns. So that's why i reserve my judgement on good handling of the car.

 

[parakey]

with or without ARB, it is the same. Well it isn't that fast as per say (less or equal 50km/h) for long turns. So that's why i reserve my judgement on good handling of the car.

I never driven the Iriz before but hear it has good handling. Have you driven other car makes/models? Is Vios/City/MyVi better for you? Or just the Contis which are better?

 

[gunnerzz]

Sorry, I dont quite understand why the rear should hop when he isnt braking

Dunno how to explained it. I noticed the behaviour on my BLM after i installed rear arb. Before install i dont go that fast so cant comment. What i notice is the rear felt a bit firmer with arb installed. The effect is there esp when nobody is seating at the back. Could be the rear suspension becomes too firm with a bit too hard bound rate after rear arb installed?

 

[parakey]

Dunno how to explained it. I noticed the behaviour on my BLM after i installed rear arb. Before install i dont go that fast so cant comment. What i notice is the rear felt a bit firmer with arb installed. The effect is there esp when nobody is seating at the back. Could be the rear suspension becomes too firm with a bit too hard bound rate after rear arb installed?

Well, the arb will resist compression on single wheel and that's what happens when going around a bend and hitting a bump. When spring wont compress, car goes up lor

I am going to assume you did nothing to the front ARB. So you only made the butt bouncier when unladen

 

[gunnerzz]

Well, the arb will resist compression on single wheel and that's what happens when going around a bend and hitting a bump. When spring wont compress, car goes up lor

I am going to assume you did nothing to the front ARB. So you only made the butt bouncier when unladen

Yup, front arb is stock. Only installed the front upper strut bar and front lower 4 point bar.

 

[parakey]

Yup, front arb is stock. Only installed the front upper strut bar and front lower 4 point bar.

I guess if you either load up at the rear or remove the rear ARB, the bounce happy rear may be minimised

 

[gunnerzz]

I guess if you either load up at the rear or remove the rear ARB, the bounce happy rear may be minimised

no need...all bars sold already. I Cuci tangan.now the car is stock and only breaks 100kmh every one or 2 month.

When i drive, rarely above 90kmh now.