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Next Car to Buy

Discussion in 'Car Talk' started by Mitevo7, Oct 16, 2017.

  1. Mitevo7

    Mitevo7 Senior Member
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    Dear All,

    I am writing this thread to get some recommendations of what cars to consider, my budget is MYR120,000. Currently i already owned 2 cars, have been reliable, just occasionally needed minor repairs. Needed a 3rd car because we need 1 more car for spare, just in case both my dailies went into garage because my GF also drives mine.

    Last week, i went and test drove 3 cars fall under my budget and below is the test reports for your reference:

    1.) BMW 325i E90 - Year made 2011 (as per registered on grant), 6 cylinders, 2.5L, 6 speed automatic with 212 bhp.

    Pro
    - Good handling especially cornering
    - Quiet Cabin and no visible rattling noise from interior
    - Under carriage is still very solid and quiet

    Con
    - Gutless engine, even for a 2.5L, have to rev about 4k to really extract its power
    - Gearbox shifting is quite slow, slower than my e46, suspect gearbox faulty or just required oil change
    - Electrical assisted power steering, feels like a toy car, too light for my preference.

    Status: Shortlisted

    2.) BMW 323i E92 (coupe) - Year made 2007, 6 cylinders, 2.5L, 6 speed automatic with 177bhp

    Pro
    - Nothing impresses me since i test drove the 325i E90 before this

    Con
    - Gutless engine, worse than my Lancer when rev about 4k
    - Gearbox having problems, improper shifting

    Status: Disqualified

    3.) Audi A4 2.0 Quattro - Year made 2009, 4 cylinders turbo, 2.0T, 7 speed DSG with 200 bhp

    Pro
    - Very good power, achieved century sprint under 8 secs (provided the road is elevated a bit)
    - Sporty ride in corners (BMW seems to be better, more agile)

    Cons
    - Vibrating engine, probably due to mounts
    - Vibrating rear differential, lack of lubrication

    Status: Disqualified

    4.) Mazda 3 NEW CAR, 4 cylcinder, 2.0L, 6 speed automatic with 162 bhp

    Pro
    - Very agile and lively engine, loves to rev
    - Crispy and smooth shifting gears, aided acceleration
    - Comfy ride despite competing with Europeans, absorb bumps like a champ

    Cons
    - Pricey for 2.0L N/A Japanese, Highline is at MYR129k (VW Jetta offers RM129k with DSG and Turbo)
    - Steering is too light, i am literally steering the car effortlessly one handed during test drive
    - Braking hard makes the car swayed left and right abit, properly due to softer absorber.

    So now my requirement is like any other car guys who like drive fast (sensibly), the car has to be in decent power (about 180 will do), automatic but preferably not CVT (gf will drive this too), handles great (no need bone breaking) and fits my budget of RM120k. Used car or not, depends on the year, i can accept 5-7 years.

    I got Volkswagen Jetta (New) and Ford Focus 1.5T (New) has yet to test drive. Please kindly let me know what choices can i have?

    Thanks,
    Ken
     

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  2. lsm1991

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    completely a personal opinion...... if i were to have a 3rd car as a spare, i would want it to basically be as cheap and reliable as possible. all those you have viewed (other than the mazda perhaps) i would have even poked at.

    I understand that these might not be to your liking, but what i would consider:
    i)coming myvi... should be decent.
    ii)jazz/city
    *note that those are popular cheap to jaga cars.... resale also wont take such a bad hit.

    well odd options
    i)crz - selo as heck but looks good if you ask me.
    ii)mark x
     
  3. Mitevo7

    Mitevo7 Senior Member
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    3rd car has to be lesser problem as much as it can while on par or better than my current two :driver:. Nevertheless, your opinions are highly appreciated.

    Mark X? Never check that one before, which model will it be ?

    Thanks,
    Ken
     
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  4. lsm1991

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    haha diferent ideas as to what the spare should be like haha.... i think you meant weekend car? not really a spare?

    anyway the X130 should just about fit into your budget.... maybe even one of them with the g's face
     
  5. 6UE5t

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    Buy the car that is reflected by your nick! :biggrin: :burnout:
     
  6. ^pomen_GTR^

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    go find subaru impreza version 10 2.5 turbo sedan model... the 2.5 version usually available in automatic... not sure ancient but reliable 4eat or newer 5eat....

    or u should go test drive the subaru wrx version 11 (the one with evo front face)...eventhough it came strictly and officially wit CVT scooterbox... but the scooby CVT actually pretty decent and pretty good compared to econobox CVT
     
  7. vr2turbo

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    Scooby brother sure recommend scooby.......lol:biggrin:
     
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    because he seems like curvy road instead of straight line... :biggrin: :driver:
     
  9. vr2turbo

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    If buying a spare car, why buy new? It depreciates whether you use it or not, unless use new car, downgrade one of the old car as spare car......lol :biggrin:
     
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    Have you looked at E60? Plenty of space, impressive handling & road feedback for a rather big car... Check out the LCI and make sure it's CKD because the CKD models have a hot weather package.

    If you don't like the 325i cuz of it's power, go check out the 530i cuz it has bout 270hp BUT they are pretty rare.
     
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  11. ixeo

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    Third car? A spare car? Perodua Axia USED
    Cheap to buy, cheap to run, easy to maintain. And all the ones you buy used still under warranty.

    For a spare car that will see only occasional use. I don’t see why you need it to be so nice to drive, so powerful. It just needs to be no problem.

    EDIT: Or alternatively, Lotus Elise. Toyota engine, easy to maintain, not much problem. And you probably don’t want to drive it everyday. Handles better than 99% of the cars out there.
     
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    3rd car? Reliable? Any of those cars shouldn’t be shortlisted man. Those are all headaches waiting to happen.

    What is the 3rd car for? If point A to point B why not a new Altis?

    If you want fun KCNGs jetta is an awesome buy. His VW has never had DSG or any issues. Fantastic FC too.

    Or a Mazda CX3?
     
  13. Mitevo7

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    LOL, not too practical bro, unless its a GTA. But can't really get loan for this kind of cars, at most 3 or 2 years MAX. Of course i would love to drive one.

    Thanks,
    Ken
     
  14. Mitevo7

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    Hahaha mine current two are no different from those, as long as not known to be worst then it's fine with me.

    3rd car is mostly driven to work and long distance. It's meant to be replacing my E46 coupe as workhorse for my GF, meanwhile my Lancer still up for the job for myself.

    VW Jetta is awesome buy, DSG mechatronic problems seem to be solved for now. And the new model (so called) looks very impressive inside and out. Going to test drive it tomorrow and i will share my report here.

    Thanks,
    Ken
     
  15. Mitevo7

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    Hahaha ! I took a look at a Legacy B5, too bad its over 100k kms and looks like not properly cared. If you have any more kang tao let me know.

    Thanks,
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  16. Mitevo7

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    Exactly ! Power can be easily modified with the correct engine. Handling is something the car possesses and the other cars can't have the same handling.

    LOL, my last tested 3 cars are used cars. However you know lo, get from dealers are like playing cards. Any kang tao ?

    Tested a 525i, love the power and handling, too bad the unit i tested requires too much of repair bills. :(

    LOL Lotus Elise, not my taste so thanks for the suggestion.
     
  17. ixeo

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    Your initial post and your following post contradicts yourself. What are you actually looking for? A spare car or a daily driver?

    From what I can see you're not looking for a 3rd car, you're looking for a daily driver.

    And what is important to you? You said power, handling.

    Forget about the E90 325i, 212bhp? Sad. I'd recommend the E90 320d or F30 320d, and then add a BMW Performance Power Kit, tune it, you'll hit 200bhp on wheel and lots of torque. Easy on fuel economy too versus the 325i N/A.

    My friend bought a used E90 320D M-Sport non-iDrive model. He's still a happy man today. Even with his manic driving (pedal to metal all the time), he does 700km on a full tank easy. The LCi E90 has all the problems ironed out, and that 2L diesel engine is bulletproof -- timing chain issues solved on MY models.

    Jetta is a drama waiting to happen. Another friend happily bought a pre-reg 2016 Passat saying that the DSG problems are solved. Guess what? His car just went in for mechatronic replacement last month.
     
  18. Mitevo7

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    Such a shocking news, i feel sorry for your friend's case and his Passat. Anyway just to let you know, i am currently car pooling with my GF, so one of my rides are squatting most of the time at hse and at most weekend drive only. So now we both just got new jobs that requires 2 cars to be driven out, i am looking for a third car into the addition just in case one of our rides suddenly need to go into garage for repairs. That's the issue i am having now and my Lancer just due for a water pump change and we are both sharing a car right now and sometimes i need to go outstation that left her with no transportation except for her to call UBER or Grab to travel for work. Thats why i need a 3rd car for this sort of event. I don't have to necessary drive it everyday, as long as it fits my checklists then its fine and sorry to tell, i still dislike diesel's engine noise.

    I have tested Jetta and the car rides horrible, like a motorboat. Tested Ford Focus 1.5T, very good noise insulation and much better handling. Price is also fits my bill, i am seriously considering it. The next one to try is a used BMW F30 320i sport which priced at 120k range. I am expecting some discounts on that.

    Thanks,
    Ken
     
  19. ixeo

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    No brainer then, the BMW F30 320i Sport. Chip tune it and massive win. Just don't snap the drive shaft lol.

    Jetta is actually stupid powerful for what it is. That DSG is just crisp and fast, and the power delivery is madness. I almost bought one *phew*.

    I'd avoid Ford here because SDAC is crap.. you'll get headaches down the road.
     
  20. 6UE5t

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    Evo & WRX should be best enjoyed in manual. Then buy Impreza WRX V10 but manual version. Or get Suzuki Swift Sport ZC32, should be well within your budget, much newer car, fun to trash around with great handling and good performance (might even surprise some who drive those bigger and more powerful cars like in your list), fuel efficient & cheaper/easy to maintain. You can get 2013-2014 cars for just below rm60k so you can save half of your budget for more important things.
     

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