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How: Build 4g93 n/a full race

Discussion in 'Car Modification' started by lae, Apr 23, 2009.

  1. lae

    lae 15 Year | Platinum

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    HOW: BUILD 4G93 N/A FULL RACE ?
    stage 3 , buid engine n transmision ?
    any prefferr ?
     
  2. SkYwAlKeR

    SkYwAlKeR Senior Member
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    - crankshaft porting and balancing...
    - high compression piston... sleeve ported and balanced...
    - stronger conrods...
    - dry sump wif oil cooler...
    - highcams... double valve springs... titanium retainers n stoppers...
    - 4 throttle unit...
    - larger injectors...
    - standalone ecu...
    - 4-1 extractor... straight piping out...
    - 6 puck twin plate clutch..
    - racing flywheel...
    - dog engagement gearbox with straight cut gears...

    what else ah?
     
  3. tofu_manic

    tofu_manic Senior Member
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    -ported & polished head
    -ceramic coated piston head
    -ceramic coated valve surface
    -friction-reducing coating at piston skirt
    -multi-spark-discharge ignition
    -water-methanol injection
    -fuel chiller
    -custom crank scraper
    -k2n power system from russia


    i think that is it
     
  4. ART///SPEED

    ART///SPEED 5 Year | Silver

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    wowowowowoowwww heehehee dont forget nos
     
  5. tofu_manic

    tofu_manic Senior Member
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    NA mar....no power adders hehe
     
  6. n/a_tune

    n/a_tune Senior Member
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    4g93 n/a full race,, what type of race?? drag..time attack,endurance or track race??:proud::thefinger:
     
  7. cooljas

    cooljas Senior Member
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    Skywalker,
    If you dont mind can u tell me where to get the 6puck twin plate clutches for 4G93NA?Also the double valve spring...thanks
     
  8. SkYwAlKeR

    SkYwAlKeR Senior Member
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    haha... no idea... jz a racing clutch suggestion... can opt for single plate 4puck also if available... i jz pakai hentam nia....:biggrin:
     
  9. DonJuanDeMarco

    DonJuanDeMarco 15 Year | Platinum

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    hahahaha......
    :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
  10. lae

    lae 15 Year | Platinum

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    currently my engine :
    pnp
    cable spark racing
    bore piston 82 mm
    crankshaft n flywheel balance
    camshaft 272"
    valve spring racing
    thortle body 65mm
    injector 360cc
    ecu haltech
    clutch set exxedy
    lsd

    what must to do for increase power , but still N/A ?
     
  11. ART///SPEED

    ART///SPEED 5 Year | Silver

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    camshaft 360 degree:banghead:
     
  12. SkYwAlKeR

    SkYwAlKeR Senior Member
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    next up go for ignition... MSD??...

    wow... u want ur valve to stick open/close 24/7??...:adore::adore:
     
  13. lae

    lae 15 Year | Platinum

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    any prefer for gearbox ?
     
  14. SkYwAlKeR

    SkYwAlKeR Senior Member
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    HKS dog-engagement gearbox
     
  15. GoldenHawk

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    Stage-3 itu apa? :confused:
     
  16. lae

    lae 15 Year | Platinum

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    how much that gbox? where to buy ?
     
  17. actuator_bypass

    actuator_bypass Senior Member
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    What kind of dogbox that don't use straight cut gear..??? If no straight cut gear.. there is no dog barking inside the gearbox bro.. LOL:wavey:

    as SkYwAlKeR mention.. you need all of that.. as a matter of meterials and gadget you don't have any issue.

    Lets start with Cylinder head :
    1.Camshaft set including valve and retainer for JUN 308 degree or RPW 316 degree.
    2.Intake manifold for safe cost you can use B16B intake manifold by modified the base foundation to fit 4G93 cylinder head.
    3. Gsr 390cc or 450cc VR4 injector (correct me if i'm wrong)
    4. Skunk2/Eric's/Super90 throttle bodys
    5. Adjustable Campulley
    6.Fuel Regulator
    7.Fuel pump walbro/sard
    OK until here you're about to spend +/- RM10k already including head porting and valve port angle.

    Ok next stage Cylinder Block.
    1.JE piston 83mm/82mm or cheap piston IZUMI/TOYO 82mm
    2.Eagle Conrod or Crower conrod
    3.Crower crankshaft

    Engine Oil
    Motul

    At these stage another -/+RM10k you're about to spend. about RM20K
    and not fully build up yet.

    Transmission:
    Manual 5 speed gearbox
    or Manual 5 speed gearbox + Kaaz LSD
    or Manual 5 speed gearbox + straight cut gear
    or PPG gearbox "H" type
    or PPG gearbox Sequential type
    Then select your final ration 4.2/3/4/5/6/7/8
    GSR drive shaft or custom drive shaft.

    Then go to engine cooling system :
    1.Aluminum radiator
    2.Oil Cooler

    Engine Management / Firing System
    Bosch Coil with Seqeuntial firing control by any after market ECU haltech/microtech/motec or MSD ignition there are a few model in the market HVC etc.

    Suspension
    From cheap TITAN adjustable to TEIN.

    Rubber/Silicon Hose/Expandable Air Intake hose

    Piping system
    4-1, 4-2-1 depend on the power you need which suite your setting

    A good and confort racing bucket seat with at least 4 point safety harness where you can choose any kind of brand in the market ie. OMP, SABELT etc.

    Light and Strong RIM for 15 or 16 inch of size
    Brakes can use GSR or VR4 or evo caliper or u can try AP Racing or Endless brake system or Brembo.

    A good rubber that suit the condition of track.. wet/dry/tarmac/gravel.

    At last but not least a good and trusted tuner and not to forget apply racing/gymkana/rally license at MAM motorsport for RM120 per year. or upgrade your license according to your class.

    Keep the racing spirit in you and SAY NO to "ILLEGAL RACE" ... :rofl:

    Bump:
    Bro if your ride is satria 4G93 na/mivec up to 190whp u still can use Trinity clutch + Exedy Pressure plate around RM1300-RM1600

    there is a blog selling most part for 4G93 na and mivec http://mhtuner.blogspot.com
     
    #17 actuator_bypass, Apr 28, 2009
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  18. lae

    lae 15 Year | Platinum

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    wow detail bro . tq
    btw which crower crankshaft or 4G94 crankshaft the better bro ?
     
  19. actuator_bypass

    actuator_bypass Senior Member
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    Use 4G94 will make your kepala more pening, more modification on the block you'll have to do.. better use custom crower for 4g93 block, plug and play.. summore your machine will be around 1900 +(25-90)cc.. the tork of the engine will maintain almost the same like 1.8 torque curve.

    If you use 4g94 crank your tork will die early.. how to play with 8000 - 9000RPM where at this state your horsepower should be at the peak..(when use the camshaft above)
     
  20. HKS-GT2835R

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    send to R3, give them a blank cheque. :biggrin:
     

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