HONDATA S300 used price..???

[goldenegg]

hey guys,, juz curious here wat is the actual price for HONDATA S300 brand new and used.. is that any big different?? thanks..

 

[arrowhead]

i got quoted for a new one inclusive of tuning... but excluding dyno... approx 3.3k... hondata itself will set u back about 2.8-3k... somewhere within that region.

used one.. i have no idea.

 

[pencalat]

bro,
tuning on dyno n tuning on the road which one is better??
by using hondata s300....

 

[goldenegg]

tuning on the road wud be better i think.. many otai prefer that..

 

[bornzreign]

tuning on the road wud be better i think.. many otai prefer that..

on the road, but tiresome..need to spend a frickin hours to get what u want..
but again, it all depends on ur tuner..and money talk..and bullshit walks..now im starting to babble..huhuh

 

[pencalat]

Hmm got some info,
some of my fren live in spore want to sold their s300...
if i'm not mistaken around 700sg...
for getting the tuner is small prob..
jb can kl can... hehe

 

[dc_vtec]

700 sg = ? rm?
x2.5 rite?

 

[dcloo]

700 sg = ? rm?
x2.5 rite?

700x2.43=1701

 

[pencalat]

x 2.36....
jst got from my fren.. 850sg (hondata + ecu)

 

[shiroitenshi]

Tuning wise, I say dyno and on road tuning both is the best method to tune.

On the dyno, you can tune the higher rpm ranges, because you can hold a specific RPM at a certain gear for a longer period of time, and experiment with various fuel ratio and ignition for maximum power possible.

On road tuning, can tune lower end. Usually doing on road will reveal mapping holes that cannot be seen on dyno, due to different loads present on real life situations. Some parts of the map are not used when on the dyno, so are extrapolated (calculated/guessed). When on the road, the extreme ranges of the map, usually on the corners, are used, unlike on the dyno, which only uses a specific range of cells.

So for me, although I do tune on the road, I'd still get the car strapped on the dyno for peak power tuning.

 

[hattech-v]

if u know how to hold ur pedal when running dyno, it shud be able to tune all rpm range.. at any cell...

 

[shiroitenshi]

if u know how to hold ur pedal when running dyno, it shud be able to tune all rpm range.. at any cell...

that's the thing, with honda ECU, TPS is also a factor in tuning, that's why simply whacking half throttle don't work, because at below 80% TPS, the ECU applies correction, and that is why you can't get repeatable AFR readings. If you whack 100% throttle, you can repeat the AFR readout, but you won't get it to reach certain cells.

On the road, to get those cells also sometimes quite difficult on full throttle. usually have to find an uphill to test.

Also, IAT/ECT temp vs. ignition compensation is also more realistic on the road. Actually I do wonder why some japanese tuners insist on running the cars they tune on the road, so I asked one, and he said (and my japanese understanding is horrible, so not 100%) something about on road condition is not same with dyno.

Thinking about it, it's true in a way, because the blower fan cannot replicate real life situations. I do notice sometimes there are lean spikes on some cars that got tuned on the dyno. They're not necessarily critical, but it shows that dyno's do miss things.

There's also variable load dyno that can address the above shortcomings, but in the end, the dyno room is still an 'artificial' environment.