Fuiyo!!! Somebody transplanting v8 into altezza?

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Its like saying "skinny girls with big tits cant walk strait"

Maybe we should conduct a poll here to liven things up...:rofl::rofl::rofl:

yes i like big but not too big ...

this V8 seen it on TV.... they use America version of Aristo V8 in to Altezza with 2jz gearbox
 

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Edited - just saw the fine prints on the picture..it is a 3UZ hehehe....noicely done.

BTW i am very interested to see how the exhaust manifold clears the crossmembers....how bout a full build pictorial blog?
 
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I am really stumped by people keep saying that putting a bigger engine into the tezza will cause front too heavy la...and unbalance la blah blah.

It is even more ludicrous too think that these people did not even bother about weight issues and suspension setup in the first place

hello, if u are overweight, u will also cause unbalance in ur car wat...

facts to consider for these ignorant people:

1) IS300 - 2JZ GE engine
guess what ? its a cast iron block. original from toyota. tell them about your favourite heavy front nose action. let them laugh at your face

engine weight +transmission ~ 220kg

2) 2JZGTE in tezza for drifting.
2JZ Altezza Drift Promo.. 415rwhp NO LAG :) - YouTube

its true the 2j is very heavy. ~ 300kg with transmission
rebalance by setting up with good suspension setup
again say too heavy n not good to the japs - let them shat at ur face

3) the toyota v8s
1uzfe - aluminium block. 3sge is cast iron block which is heavier??

3sge + trans ~ 190kg
1uzfe + trans ~ 220kg

a mere 30kg increase will coz front nose action? walaau ehhh
i am sure u can easily gain an extra 30kg in your lifetime and then u will coz unbalance in ur car already. lolx

again tell it mr.rod millen. creator of is430

Lexus "IS430" - Millen & Foose modified IS300 - Part 1 of 3 - YouTube

let him punch your face lolx

p.s from a very enthusiastic v8 lover
 
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cool cool la wei brather....

come to think of it, i also din know v8 so light until u say.

true the RS4 v8 is made from aluminium block as well. same with the rs6 v10!!!
 

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ADMIN/moderators-- 3 posts by this chensisi guy talking absolute rubbish with no relevance whatsoever!

DO SOMETHING!!!!
 

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a mere 30kg increase will coz front nose action? walaau ehhh
i am sure u can easily gain an extra 30kg in your lifetime and then u will coz unbalance in ur car already. lolx
I love V8s. But yes a mere 30 kg at the front end does affect handling. Because at speeds, 30 kg isn't jut 30 kg anymore. Multiply it by the velocity, it becomes momentum and inertia. If it is not important, track version of sports cars such as Spec V GTR and GT 3 RS wouldn't spend so much time and research by replacing even the slightest components with lightweight ones. The Porsche GT3 RS goes to the extent of giving the car only 1 layer of thin paint and replacing the Porsche emblem with a sticker type. Call them stupid you may. All the engineers and scientist who developed that car.

Weight of driver will definitely affect performance and handling as well. But unlike the weight of engine and transmission that rests on the front axle (hanging on the front), this is more towards the middle. Thus the affect isn't that significant.

P.S. - Power is nothing without control.

just my 1 cent :burnout:
 

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Mr Green,

Whats the weight for the 1jz - gte plus transmission ?


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err i think is about ~270kg if i remember la

1jz twin turbo with r154 tranny

still....somebody beat me to a v8...hahaha

from the looks of the picture i think is a 3uzfe smart choice for an alloy block
 
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All the nay-sayers seems to come from non-altezza owners.

Apart from Nissan(Cefiro and Silvia) other Jap makes dont have the platform and/or engines for this kind of transplant.

European makes-you can choose the platform then the engine eg Audi TT (1.8 I4 and 3.2v6)
BMW 3series(2L I4 to 3+L I6)

Outside their comfort zone look at Honda with their S2000;Vigor and NSX

A transverse mounted layout in the Honda would be more subsceptible to any weight changes it did not stop civic owners from modding Accord block Vtecs onto their cars

If I had listened to these nay-sayers I would never have done my 1JZ transplant and Altezza's would have been bullied by evo-protons;Type-Rs;scoobies and evo's

As for structural integrity the altezza was made for the american/european market in mind first and as owners will vouch its stronger than a BMW chassis.

This mod(3UZ) has already been done.

The great Steve Jobs said "STAY HUNGRY;STAY FOOLISH"

And we dont stay stupid!!!
 

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true honda vtec owners will need to adjust their spring rates n damping to even out the weight increase from the accord block in front, with such lightweight chassis and an increase in final drive...fuiyoooo

of course its easier said than done, but its not rocket science either.

simply put, observe the newest lexus is-f from toyota

the chassis is based on the is250. so what do u think they did to make sure the is250 chassis can handle the v8 416hp 502nm monster?

thicken the anti roll bars
up the front n rear spring rates
up the shock absorbers damping
change the bushings to stronger ones for front n rear subframes
lower the car with revised suspension setup

why can be done? becoz the is250 chassis xe20 is an excellent chassis!!!! this is a successor to the sxe10 chassis which is also great! except perhaps a bit old now lolx

this being done by the oem manufacturer is testament to an ingenius strive for power n improvement to give the contis bmw n mercs a run for their money!!

moral of the story...can be done. but have to constructively go at it with ideas and study. not with just biblical nonsense and empty arguements.

and of course the journey toward a finished product is the fun part. not the ending. this i am sure all are already aware

gotta admire whoever is putting in the v8.....it takes patience & study to see it thru and i am already sure its not gonna be easy.

not anyone can do it.

peace
 

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everything can be done. It's just that for a mod to be valid and useful, overall considerations and mods must be done. Chassis, suspension and braking must be upped accordingly with engine transplant. If not power will be wasted.
 

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I'm more interested in the 3UZ from the SC430 because that autobox is native on the Altezza RS200 as well.
Miss this!! Less hassle to use gearbox from the half-cut(3UZ) The :banghead::banghead::banghead: is in the minor details that you dont first notice!!!

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everything can be done. It's just that for a mod to be valid and useful, overall considerations and mods must be done. Chassis, suspension and braking must be upped accordingly with engine transplant. If not power will be wasted.

Thanks for your concern but perhaps direct it to all those evo - protons with stock brakes and cut springs.
 

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Thanks for your concern but perhaps direct it to all those evo - protons with stock brakes and cut springs.
Not directing to anyone. They might not accept it because some concentrate more on straight line performance. Some care more about safe but some care less. This is just my 2 cents. It's a matter of preferences.
 

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with tons of money.. anything is possible..

30kg infront? not a problem..

do a chassis & suspension research from where the engine is from.. & copy it to the tezza..

& u're done

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