ECO Assist - Honda

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  1. BLaCkHoWLiNG

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    In recent times, we now know that the importance of going Green. I mean, afterall, we only have 1 HOME - our Earth. Since then, every major manufacturer and business owners have gone green or, some has banked on the concept of going eco-friendly. This may be a marketing gimmick to gain more market share, or genuinely be - eco friendly for our future generations.

    One of such manufacturer is Honda.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5hHB9lXy08

    Honda has dedicated themselves in the pursuit of green technology and a greener environment for decades. It reflects pretty well through the likes of their latest model - the Honda CR-Z where they had proved that going green does not mean taking away the “mean”. This is what most automotive manufacturer faced - Once you go green, you lose the mean factor and is always perceived as being - soft.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVODqBVYtd0

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    CRZ is a totally whole new ball game. It's Green, It's lean and it's Mean - this is thanks to their years of R&D and tonnes of money spent on it as well. Honda's pretty serious in this mission of theirs as one can see that it is not just through their 1.5 Hybrid that they had shown their effort in doing but it's also quite apparent on the other models as well i.e. the whole range of the new Civic is equipped with the Eco Assist function to help out with the car’s fuel efficiency, allowing the drivers to save fuel thus having a greener drive.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjXa7692Wcw

    Well, putting aside the eco friendly factor aside, with the fuel prices going up at anytime in the near future, will this Eco Assist be a great addition for the drivers?

    Or will some of you go towards the dark side... i.e. Diesel turbo?

     
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  2. spoon civic

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    maybe turbo diesel.................
     
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    There are a lot of automakers that create a concept about futuristic vehicle. But I think none of them yet has release a reliable one.
     
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    I'll go for CR-Z or either Toyota Prius. Proven saves more fuel than normal petrol cars...
     
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    I don't think hybrids are the end-all-be all of green technology in cars. It still use fossil fuel to work, hence I expect it to be nothing more than a current trend, maybe for the next few years. In which case, fossil fuel is still in abundance/ reasonably affordable.

    If we were to look 10-20 years into the future however, I'm expecting green technology to be this:

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    This model is already sold in limited numbers in the US iirc, around 10-20 vehicles. As you might heard, it uses hydrogen to power it. I hope in a few years, the technology will mature and becomes a viable alternative (or rather replacement) of fossil fuel.

    Till then, I'll stick with petrol and might consider diesel.
     
  6. quicksilver7

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    petrol turbo :D
     
  7. Izso

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    Honda Clarity. The only true green car in the market since it doesn't emit anything other than water and doesn't have a gigantic battery and only uses hydrogen. When hydrogen cell cars start becoming readily available I'll switch. Until then screw hybrids.
     
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    Petrol turbo aint exactly GREEN bro.. hehehe

    Anyway, neither is turbo diesel but apparently, current manufacturers have constructed it to be much more efficient - hence greener in a way?

    I think hybrid is the way of the future but if car manufacturers are able to combine 'going green but not sacrificing the mean' factor.. it will be the winning formula
     
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    Izso, the FCX Clarity has a supplemental Li-Ion battery pack to help with torque and regenerative charging as well...niche market tho...i'd love to own one of these, exhaust is water =)

    BH - the CRZ was one of it and made the first manual hybrid transmission, the FL model having 20hp more than the previous model, with S+, it doesn't look like they were targeting on saving fuel but more of instant & renewable power. Don't say la Panamera Hybrid, Active Hybrid BMW's and all...CRZ bolt-on forced induction proven to do 180hp on a 1.5cc is quite a feat

    Mugen RZ is the new concept supercharged CRZ... (if you have deep pockets)
     
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    my pockets aint deep.. ... :(
     
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    PocketRocket, from your point of view, would CRZ FL with the S+ feature is faster than the older model? Or we could say, slight better?
     
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    Yeah, they up the power for the FL over the previous model
     
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    Deeper than mine la. In fact deeper than a lot of peoples.
     
  14. ixeo

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    Incorrect. Nissan Leaf, emits nothing. Clarity is not exactly in the market, its just leased in the United States, not sure about Japan market. Nissan Leaf is being sold, and its "your car" instead of being leased.

    I personally think Hybrids are stupid, its neither here nor there, and its merely a placeholder to sell more cars until battery technologies catch up to cover the distance.

    Hybrids are like Netbooks in 2010, it was a placeholder until iPads & tablets came to the market. Now in 2013, netbooks are discontinued and the whole category is gone! But I guess manufacturers are selling Hybrids to test the batteries in the vehicles, and use the money made from Hybrids to fund R&D on batteries.

    Likewise, right now Hybrids are around, but when battery catches up, there will be no need for Hybrids once EV can cover the distance!

    Yes I can tell the future. Now accepting private appointments at RM100/minute, minimum consultation charge is 1 hour.
     
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    I'm in love with the new CR-Z :smile:
     
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    I agree. Hybrids are a waste of time. Except for those systems found on the Porsches.. those aren't for saving the earth, those are for the extra low end powaahhhh.. at least those fellas have the right sense of mind to not sell their cars as "green tech". It's bullshit.

    The thing I hate about cars like the Leaf, is that they have such limited range. The only real electric car that's practical is the Volt. Since it's technically still a petrol charged electric car it has great mileage and emits close to nothing. Pity production is so bad and only comes in left hand drive. Saw the car up close and it's handsome!
     
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    That's Tesla.. ultimate electric car... ;)

    Anyway... i've got some CRZ pics taken over last weekend - supercharged and another turbocharged... crazy mofo mods! ..coming up soon!!
     
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    Tesla still have range issues. Fisker might probably go bankrupt if they cannot get insurance to pay for their hurricane sandy losses. Now apart from the Leaf from Japan, we haven't seen EV offerings from Honda and Toyota.

    Maybe they are delaying the public launch of their EV since they making so much money from their Hybrids. Toyota has the passenger hybrid segment, and Honda has the sporty hybrid segment.

    Turbocharging/Supercharging a CR-Z..what's so *GREEN* about it? Spend so much money to modify, why not just buy a faster car? Top Gear already proven a M3 will use less fuel than a Toyota Prius if its going flat out.
     
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    diesel range extenders are the future. they use any available bio-fuel and converts it to electricity which then turns it o electricity which then charges a bank of batteries which then turns a motor.

    everything running at it's optimum potential. all renewable. as soon as they figure out a renewable battery source. ais limau kuprum anyone?

    my opinions is that hybrids are just a marketing gimmick that made it thru. a lucky escape. if green energy is truly the purpose...y still stick with petroleum? y not oil burners? gas turbines burn anything that can burn n turn it into kinetic energy. y nothing on that? y so little exposure on range extenders? an oil burner turns an engine which ALWAYS runs at it's optimum RPM which charges a battery then turns off when the battery when full which then turns an electric motor which moves yr car. what is more ngam?
     
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    With the ongoing advancement of battery technology, pure electric cars like Tesla would make more sense than having an oil burner that generates electric. Due to less hardware in the car itself.

    I mean, if you have a 600 mile range on one charge, you really don't need an oil burner in the car right?
     

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