Drive a Honda Civic Eg/EK Must Read!

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  1. E-Tech

    E-Tech Senior Member
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    Bro..
    U were the one who bring up the subject of solid-state caps...
    So dun ask me abt this ok...:biggrin:

    For the normal e-caps.... will have body markingson the sleeve cover...
    e,g 33uf 35v 105c and so on...
     
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    bro.. if u encounter that can do.. u are brilliant wakakaka...

    :rofl:
     
  3. E-Tech

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    Warning... warning... free advice.
     
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    Caps replacement carried out tonite on a P30.. This auto ecu have 8 caps...
     

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    Here's the values and locations...
    The 3rd picture is the location of the big cap...220uf 35v..
    You can see signs of very minor leak. Can only be seen after cap is
    removed.....TQ
     

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    Bro
    tonite wil be working on a Toyota ecu
    wit da same caps leak issue. Many tracks
    broken...will post up once it is completed.
    On Tuesday did repair for evo1 ecu..
    Same issues... Caps leaked also. So pls
    follow my advise. Tq
     
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    bro wat model is the ecu if i'm driving a Civic EG non vtec? its a 95 model... sometimes in the morning i experince engine very hard to start...
     
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    Honda & Toyota SeG owners- MUST READ!!!!

    As mention earlier, tonite I worked on a toyota ecu with the same troubles like the Honda Egs ECU... The owner complain... enjin suka suka mak dia mati... send da car to my members workshop.... BOYZ GARAGE... from experience we pull out the ecu and took the lid of...
    You could basically smell the leaking caps smell and one big patch has turn black... See the pictures to believe...
    Work on it from 9.30pm... just completed it 5 minutes ago... will test it out in the car tommorrow..99.9% it will be okay... God willing...

    What was da repairs?... 5 caps changed, clean up the black area and joined back 3 broken copper track which broke off due to the acid from the caps....

    SO GO CHANGE THE CAPACITORS IN YOUR ECU IF YOUR MODEL OF CAR IS MORE THAN 10 YEARS....ESPECIALLY P27, P08 & P30... IT BURNS HOLES IN ECU AND YOUR POCKET...

    Honda, Mitsubishi & Toyota all the same....when will it be your turn? Do something about it.
    Thanks for reading...:bawling:
     

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    "RECYCLE YOUR ECU PROGRAM"
    Please courier (ABX) reverse charged to me.
    Thank you for your contribution.....another Honda EG/EK will be running on the road...:biggrin:



    ZTHs bro...
    Just an update on the above toyota ecu.
    Tested the ecu this morning, after my "tired" friend woke up from sleep.
    Alasan... balik from Sepang 5am...

    Anyway plug in and test drove the SEG with 4throttle for 30mis...
    Problem SOLVED. Recycled another ECU...
    TQ.
     
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    RECYCLE YOUR SPOILTED ECU PROGRAM"
    No support?? :smokin:
     
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    Sorry for late reply... It should be a P27.
    These are the type that if da big cap leak, will burn a hole in the ecu board...
    Better check... TQ:biggrin:
     
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    vtec sifuu....just wanna ask some question here...sorry to borrow ur thread..e-tech..since u know a lot bout ecu...might as well ask u...:biggrin:
    last year i change my b16a gearbox to manual...then i didn't change the ecu...so it's still auto ecu...
    my wiring is OBD2...since is an ek4...so i'm planning to change to b18cr ecu...what i want to know is...

    1. will the ECU work fine with my b16a mild mod?
    2. will i gain performance or it will be worst?
    3. the revcut for b18cr is 8400RPM or 8900RPM? (i dont need to rev past 9k since i worry bout the engine lifespan playing on track)

    fyi..i know a lot will want me to change to OBD1...but i'm not gonna change to OBD1 and rechip...coz i'm planning to use obd2 and tune with e-manage 3-4 month after using it...the purpose buying the b18cr ecu is just to rev a little higher....would appreciate the help guys...:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
     
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    So in conclusion... YES can use the B18cr ecu (P73, i think) and with emanage you can fine tune
    the fuel and ignition timing to suit your B16A minor modification. Should be able to run well...

    Or (since OBD1 is out of the picture) try to get a chipped OBD2, i seen half cut (EK9) coming in with
    chipped OBD2... that will surely be the best based on wat you want....
    Tq
     
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    can we chip EK9 OBD2 ecu? how?
     
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    Can be done but must have all the special soldering equipment to properly
    1. removethe original micro processor.... Big IC with many "j" leg
    2. put in & solder the socket for the "J" legs IC
    3. Find a chip to put in.... these ICs also diffecult to copy...

    So far i can only chip OBD1.... IC only 28 pins...

    So if can get 1 OBD2A/B with chip e.g spoon the grab it lor....

    :biggrin:
     
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    Its there a diff between the ECU of civic EG (2 door and 4 door) model? the same model as stated in my earlier post..
     
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    Bro
    should be a P27.
    As far as I ve seen they r da same.
    Only internal components some differents.

    Hv u open up to check?
    These r da type of ecu that da big caps leak and
    burn hole!!!
    Tq
     
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    e-tech...yes..it's an ori ek4 auto..but already convert it to manual last year...OBD2 can be chipped? but since you said it's hard to copy the chip...surely all the obd2 that came with chipped ecu is damn expensive rite?
     
  19. E-Tech

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    If lucky then can get cheap lor... some buyer get it when they buy their ek9 half cut...already chipped in japan....

    That is why many choose to go with obd1 (p30 or P08) ecu, many different cheaps are available to select from to suit ur modifications.... Hondata s300 that support obd1 will also be cheaper..

    In ur case if you decide to go with obd1.... what is needed is...
    OBD2A--> OBD1 conversion harness................ rm380-450
    P08 std ecu.................................................rm450
    Get ecu chipped...........................................rm300 so at least rm1200

    tq
     
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    Another ECU damaged!!! Take action-lah.....

    Dear bro of hondas@zth,

    "Onconnect" has posted some pictures of his ecu which he complain if vtec cannot crossover...
    Based on the pictures.... YES, capacitors have leaked and damage certain areas of the ecu...

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    and here is what I advise him....

    Onconnect,
    Here is my diagnostic based on ur pictures...

    1. Your ecu is P08 auto & has been chipped with Thunder Chips.
    (NO KNOCK BOARD)
    2. Big cap C27 have leaked, nearby chip cap C72 maybe also spoilt.
    3. IC14 surrounding areas also looks damaged...
    4. Medium cap C34 alos have sign of leak.
    5. Bottom side transistor for injector control QM3 have sign of repair of copper trace...

    Tq...
    p/s u will soon have fuel and spark timing related problems or CEL code besides your current
    vtec cannot crossover trouble....

    I am quite confident it can be fixed....tq


    Here is the link to the other pictures....
    http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/honda/314273-ecu-problem-continue-to-read.html#post4016189
     
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