Antiroll bar 1.6

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  1. speed2horizon

    speed2horizon Senior Member
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    I have a set of front antiroll bar and lower arm taken from satria 1.6. ARB looks quite thick. At least 22mm. Could be 23mm. Will double check.

    good upgrade for Satria/wira 1.5/1.3
    Reason for selling is, I upgraded to EVO 3 ARB + lower arm.

    Picture will be uploaded soon.

    Asking for RM100 (price revised)
     
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    what is your best price?
    kinda interested
     
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    U've got PM bro....
     
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    thanks where your location ?
     
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    isit come wit rear arm?:rolleyes:
     
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    Topic starter, why did you "down grade" to EVO3 ARB when your original bar is thicker?

    Even my Wira 1.5 use 20mm front ARB. I suggest you to get yourself a set of 23mm MIVEC/EVO1 ARB.

    BTW, for sales reason, your original ARB is suitable for the latter batches of Putra with 17mm front ARB. Hope you find a buyer soon. Good luck!
     
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    He's selling the front ARB lar..
     
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    Yaya, I am sellint the front Anti roll bar + lower arm. Thanks for clarification.

    Well, the diameter of the anti roll bar may seems to be thicker. But at the end of the day, it's the mounting design of the linkage that allows the caster angle change during a cornering. That's because the the antiroll bar is mounted on the mounting plate(telinga) that is located on the absorber itself.

    During cornering, the absorber turns and it changes the caster angle a little wider.

    And also, the further the linkage is being mounted, the better the antiroll effect will be due to the larger moment arm that the ARB can provide.

    For example, a gti mounting method has the exact same style of the EVO's. And U should know that GTI handling is better than 1.6.

    Finally, the EVO's lower arm is a cast iron solid piece. And the shear and stress on the lower arm itself as effect of the harsh cornering will be limited.

    So, to my understanding, I'd prefer to call it Upgrading.
    Oppsss... One more statement, The above explanation only apply to EVO 2 and 3. EVO 1 have the 1.6 ARB mounting design and it's made of welded stamp steel plate assembly...

    Thanks for reading.
     
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    yes that's true. i am not aware that you have replaced the front absorbers.
     
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    Yaya... R3 absorbers and springs in a set of 4. Well, they seems to be serving me quite well... Handles corner quite well, at the same time not to bumpy on my ride... Much better than the stock GTI. But of course it's not meant to be compared with adjustables lar...

    Anyway, it reminds me of TEIN hilo softhard. Handles as good as HKS, but not as uncomfortable. Sorry, I don;t mean to advertise here.... Hehe...
     
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    Bring up my post.... Good upgrade.....
    Common, improve ur handling before the engine....
     
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    Actually, there's some wrong figures stated here

    Wira 1.5 is 18mm for front(same as Putra after GTi came out)
    Wira 1.6/1.8 is same as MIVEC or Evo I and Putra before GTi 23mm for front

    Evo II and III is "downgraded" to 16mm front but directly mounted onto absorbers like GTi(GTi stock is 18mm in front, R3 is 19mm), reason for downgrade is to reduce understeer

    For the rear
    Wira 1.6/1.8/Putra(regardless of year) all came with 13mm non-direct acting(satay bush type)
    Satria GTi is 13mm direct acting type(double ball joint no bush type)
    Evo I/II/III(i think inclusive of the 1.8 GSR) is using 18mm, should be also double ball joint but not confirmed, cannot fit onto normal Wira/Satria/Putra chassis due to different mounting and kinks

    All these figures are from manufacturer specs and not hearsay only and had been confirmed by measuring a few cars of the stated model(s)
     
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    Well, as a matter of fact, i have already installed the Evo3's into my satria without any chasis modification.

    Some ppl are worried about EVO's anti roll bar + lower arm not being able to fit into satria because of their cross member which is designed for a 4 wheel GB. Like I was earlier....

    However, I was given an opportunity to fit before I pay situation and it manage to be fitted into my Satria 1.6 nicely.

    As for the rear, my friend is using MIVEC's it on his Wira aeroback and felt the improvement on the handling.

    Well, back to the term "upgrading". Reducing the thickness of the antiroll bar, but at the same time improving on the linkage design and a more solid lower arm to provide better steering response. And overall, improving the handling of the car, I would call it an upgrade.

    When U have a better antiroll system on the rear, it reduces the understeer...

    Anyway, thanks for the concern and explaination. I'd wish to learn more if U have other opinion.

    BUMP, anyone...? Good upgrade for satria/Wira 1.3/1.5. Will also take out my rear later when I have money.
     
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    Mine is confirmed 20mm, not 18mm. Measured with vernier caliper on unpainted section.

    Putra is 17mm after GTi, also measured with vernier caliper.
     
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