Airtrek Turbo (CU2W) Engine (4G63T), tranny and drivetrain swap to Lancer 2008

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Airtrek engine so expensive meh? It's the weakest engine out of the 2nd gen 4G63T so I'd think it should be much cheaper. 9 and 8MR are the expensive ones.
yea bout 7 give or take
 

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Airtrek engine so expensive meh? It's the weakest engine out of the 2nd gen 4G63T so I'd think it should be much cheaper. 9 and 8MR are the expensive ones.
I always look for the most expensive half cut for me to have a high and low bench mark, it's the weakest due to so much has been detuned. I have another option is Evo 7 GTA half cut but its double the price. Not worth if i am going to spend large portion of my cash to fabricate stuffs to make all things work.
 

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I always look for the most expensive half cut for me to have a high and low bench mark, it's the weakest due to so much has been detuned. I have another option is Evo 7 GTA half cut but its double the price. Not worth if i am going to spend large portion of my cash to fabricate stuffs to make all things work.
k let me be frank...
just bolt on or evo x

if u do die wana install 4g
gen2, look at evo4/5/6/airtrek, forget 7 and up... alot more complicated for a swap.
gen1, your calllah but e3 is cheap these days.
 

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I always look for the most expensive half cut for me to have a high and low bench mark, it's the weakest due to so much has been detuned. I have another option is Evo 7 GTA half cut but its double the price. Not worth if i am going to spend large portion of my cash to fabricate stuffs to make all things work.
I saw a Ralliart turbo kit for 4b11 on sale in Facebook, rated to 240hp. I think better bolt on that.
 

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I saw a Ralliart turbo kit for 4b11 on sale in Facebook, rated to 240hp. I think better bolt on that.
Need to convert the gearbox to manual, and will need LSD to hold the power to the ground. This was one of my options 3 years ago but i found out the manual gearbox conversion is as expensive as a Lancer N/A half cut, i put that idea away.

k let me be frank...
just bolt on or evo x

if u do die wana install 4g
gen2, look at evo4/5/6/airtrek, forget 7 and up... alot more complicated for a swap.
gen1, your calllah but e3 is cheap these days.
Ralliart is simpler than Evo X. Evo X got plenty of stocks in MY though but still hella expensive. Realistically speaking, 4G conversion is extremely difficult to do as might involve cutting some body frame, which cutting is needed i will straight say no. My mechanic still checking the Airtrek body and mount to see how difficult it is for this swap. An Airtrek turbo just came in to his shop for oil change and driveshaft shaft, so he took this chance to check it out for me. Stay tuned.
 

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Ralliart is simpler than Evo X. Evo X got plenty of stocks in MY though but still hella expensive. Realistically speaking, 4G conversion is extremely difficult to do as might involve cutting some body frame, which cutting is needed i will straight say no. My mechanic still checking the Airtrek body and mount to see how difficult it is for this swap. An Airtrek turbo just came in to his shop for oil change and driveshaft shaft, so he took this chance to check it out for me. Stay tuned.
im pretty sure can be made to fit without cutting... but be prepared to keep the car for life. I'll say it again, turbo the bugger or swap in the 2.4+ turbo the bugger....

also... if the lackthereof lsd is a buzzkill for you, the airtrek doesnt have it either (afaik)

**also think i saw a turbo kit for sale... 7k (im sure u can nego)
 
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im pretty sure can be made to fit without cutting... but be prepared to keep the car for life. I'll say it again, turbo the bugger or swap in the 2.4+ turbo the bugger....

also... if the lackthereof lsd is a buzzkill for you, the airtrek doesnt have it either (afaik)

**also think i saw a turbo kit for sale... 7k (im sure u can nego)
I heard you mate, let me satisfy my hunger to know on this mod, even if my mechanic friend thinks it can be done but whether he wants to do it or not is another case. I won't force him to do it if he is not confident.
 

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im pretty sure can be made to fit without cutting... but be prepared to keep the car for life. I'll say it again, turbo the bugger or swap in the 2.4+ turbo the bugger....

also... if the lackthereof lsd is a buzzkill for you, the airtrek doesnt have it either (afaik)

**also think i saw a turbo kit for sale... 7k (im sure u can nego)
Problem with BOT, is the internal may not last.....:driver:
 

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Problem with BOT, is the internal may not last.....:driver:
Agreed ... i rather do low boost style like the older days Volvo and Audi, i am more worried of the CVT box. Boost pressure has to come in very gentle and linear, a high end electrical boost controller by RPM is a must. Last time i went to junkyard, a used and seems good condition Volvo S40 2.0T light pressure turbocharger cost me about MYR350. Below is my checklist for turbocharging the Lancer if i really needed that power without swapping shit:

1.) S40 I 2.0 Low pressure turbocharger = MYR 350
2.) Custom exhaust manifold = MYR 600
3.) Used Intercooler = MYR 400 for decent size
4.) Custom intercooler piping = MYR 1,200 depending on length, material and workmanship, my 1jZ custom intercooler and exhaust piping complete is about MYR 2600
5.) Used EBC (M7 model) = MYR 700
6.) Used con shape airfilter = MYR 150
7.) Recirculated BOV = FREE, used my existing one but must reroute the intake
8.) Coolant supply lines for turbo = Unknown but i budget in MYR 300
9.) Samco hoses = budget in MYR 600 for all necessary fitting
10.) Dastek Unichip Q+ = MYR 1,500 including tune
10.1) OPTIONAL = Remap using stock ECU using Openport 2.0 = MYR 1,000
11.) Last but not least, INSTALLATION = MYR 1,000 for good friend's price

I looks like i will need sub 10K to get my car turbo'ed, at least if i am keen, i can pick those parts one by one without having to give one shot like how i did for my 1JZ. Fucking expensive.

Thanks,
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Agreed ... i rather do low boost style like the older days Volvo and Audi, i am more worried of the CVT box. Boost pressure has to come in very gentle and linear, a high end electrical boost controller by RPM is a must. Last time i went to junkyard, a used and seems good condition Volvo S40 2.0T light pressure turbocharger cost me about MYR350. Below is my checklist for turbocharging the Lancer if i really needed that power without swapping shit:

1.) S40 I 2.0 Low pressure turbocharger = MYR 350
2.) Custom exhaust manifold = MYR 600
3.) Used Intercooler = MYR 400 for decent size
4.) Custom intercooler piping = MYR 1,200 depending on length, material and workmanship, my 1jZ custom intercooler and exhaust piping complete is about MYR 2600
5.) Used EBC (M7 model) = MYR 700
6.) Used con shape airfilter = MYR 150
7.) Recirculated BOV = FREE, used my existing one but must reroute the intake
8.) Coolant supply lines for turbo = Unknown but i budget in MYR 300
9.) Samco hoses = budget in MYR 600 for all necessary fitting
10.) Dastek Unichip Q+ = MYR 1,500 including tune
10.1) OPTIONAL = Remap using stock ECU using Openport 2.0 = MYR 1,000
11.) Last but not least, INSTALLATION = MYR 1,000 for good friend's price

I looks like i will need sub 10K to get my car turbo'ed, at least if i am keen, i can pick those parts one by one without having to give one shot like how i did for my 1JZ. Fucking expensive.

Thanks,
Ken
Why EBC M7? Last time I was considering it also cuz cheap but my tuner doesn't like it (he said not as easy to use and setup) so I follow his recommendation to use Profec.

For rm150 you can get new cone filter. I bought Works/Simota 4 inch for just rm120 if not mistaken.

Why Dastek? If can direct remap ECU maybe better.

Installation only rm1k? So damn cheap!
 

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Why EBC M7? Last time I was considering it also cuz cheap but my tuner doesn't like it (he said not as easy to use and setup) so I follow his recommendation to use Profec.

For rm150 you can get new cone filter. I bought Works/Simota 4 inch for just rm120 if not mistaken.

Why Dastek? If can direct remap ECU maybe better.

Installation only rm1k? So damn cheap!
M7 i have direct supply, its right there in my friend's shop, Priofec how much ah ? For use it on CVT its a must to have variable boost across RPM but matching engine torque with the characteristic of CVT.

Same goes to Dastek, its ready at the shop for me to pickup, but i have opt for direct tune on openport 2.0. Cut down the installation charges.

Installation 1K is friend's price, i gave my friend about 50K business during my quest for power and maintaining all my personal vehicles.
 

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M7 i have direct supply, its right there in my friend's shop, Priofec how much ah ? For use it on CVT its a must to have variable boost across RPM but matching engine torque with the characteristic of CVT.

Same goes to Dastek, its ready at the shop for me to pickup, but i have opt for direct tune on openport 2.0. Cut down the installation charges.

Installation 1K is friend's price, i gave my friend about 50K business during my quest for power and maintaining all my personal vehicles.
The old discontinued Profec B v2 used is already around rm600+. The new OLED Profec is around rm1.5k new, 1k used. I use the older Profec. Very easy to use and able to control boost stable but maybe not based on rpm but on throttle input, so it can quickly reach full boost at mid rpm. But if you want the boost to be softer engagement, then the Set Gain value can be set lower hence the boost starting more progressive.

Your friend is familiar with Evos or not? :)
 

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Oh pretty low! VR4 is very low compression right?

Mine now 1.4 on low boost and 1.7 on high boost.
VR is great great great grandpa, so boost I think is low. Later model all high boost......lol
 

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The old discontinued Profec B v2 used is already around rm600+. The new OLED Profec is around rm1.5k new, 1k used. I use the older Profec. Very easy to use and able to control boost stable but maybe not based on rpm but on throttle input, so it can quickly reach full boost at mid rpm. But if you want the boost to be softer engagement, then the Set Gain value can be set lower hence the boost starting more progressive.

Your friend is familiar with Evos or not? :)
I think throttle input might be the best way in boosting CVT due to the gearbox revs also react to drivers throttle input. What's your suggestion ?

He's done up a few Evo 7 and 3s, what are you looking at ?