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4age 20v bt stock vs b 16 a stock vs mivec 1.6 stock

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  1. ae101 RASR

    ae101 RASR 5 Year | Silver

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    what kind of engine is more power???????
     
  2. stabk

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    B16A..the best
     
  3. B16B Corolla

    B16B Corolla Senior Member
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    Same engine put in different car will have different output, no point to compare like this . Both of these engine have their own potential and fans. Powerwise, definitely B16A comes first, durability, 20v..MIVEC , no idea..
     
  4. YUZZRAY

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    He..he.. we've discussing about this long time ago.. but no conclusion.. anyway..b16b,20v & mivec has its own specialties..
     
  5. GEFORCEXTREME

    GEFORCEXTREME 5 Year | Silver

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    They're equivalent.
     
  6. ae101 RASR

    ae101 RASR 5 Year | Silver

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    thanks for the reply sifu, what about mivec evo x n/a compare with 4age 20v bt which one is more power??????
     
  7. Veloc

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    I am a toyota fan... But I must say, all these engines makes similar power. They differ only in operation and character... The highest is MIVEC however because to my knowledge, there is a version that makes 170 hp bar the Nissan Neo VVL that makes 180 hp.

    But, Honda B16B will normally win because the car is lighter, and I think their gearing is slightly better (not sure on this, suspect only).

    So, for engine sheer power - Neo VVL > MIVEC > B16B & Blacktop
    For acceleration and speed - B16B > The rest
     
  8. AE111_SEG

    AE111_SEG Senior Member
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    On paper :

    Levin AE111 : 165ps\162Nm 4AGE
    Civic EK4 : 170ps\150Nm B16A
    Pulsar VZ-R : 175ps\161Nm SR16VE
    Mirage CJ4A : 175ps\167Nm 4G92
    Civic EK9 : 185ps\160Nm B16B
    Pulsar VZ-R II : 200ps\181Nm SR16VE

    On road different story cos dependent on body weight, gear ratio, final drive and no of gears..
    As far as I know the fastest 1.6 tested by Best Motoring in Japan : In order.
    1) Pulsar VZ-R N1 version II N15
    2) Civic Type R EK9
    3) Levin BZ-R AE111 6MT

    Unless anyone else have different facts...pls share...
     
  9. Veloc

    Veloc Senior Member
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    Dude civic got so high? On paper I never seen it advertised so high... Always 165 hp only... Where this info from? Some B16A again... Not B16B..
     
  10. AE111_SEG

    AE111_SEG Senior Member
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    Yes it is correct. Best motoring as well as I have the JDM car catalog.
    Remember PS is not the same as BHP or HP. HP figures are lower.
     
  11. teo1957

    teo1957 Senior Member
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    I've owned cars with 4AGE 20v Blacktop and B16A.

    B16A is very lively during accelerating, maybe because of the gear ratio. Upper RPM range B16A better. But butt feel only. EG6 is also a very very light car so that must have played a part.
     
  12. AE111_SEG

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    If for modding then I would go for :
    1) B16A or B
    2) 4AGE
    3) 4G92
    4) SR16VE

    Honda has endless list of tuning parts followed by Toyota.

    If want to keep it standard then :

    1) SR16VE Version II
    2) B16B
    3) 4AGE 6MT
    4) B16A
    5) 4G92

    Since these engine are old finding halfcut or engine kosong considering the price :

    1) 4AGE
    2) B16A
    4) B16B
    3) 4G92
    4) SR16VE
     
  13. akuma

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    just 2 share,apparently i found out even a STOCK SR16VE engine runs on 85mm pistons(a fren who owns 1 told me abt dis).....so,imagine d power & torque it'll produce..n yeah,i saw d comparo in Best Motoring too.....d Pulsar shredded d EK9 to pieces!
    d reason y B16A/B is known 2 b d more "powerful" engine is becoz of it's abundance of aftermarket tuning parts.......if really stock vs stock,i got no idea coz i've never driven any stock version of all d above-mentioned engines....stock-ED got lar!hahahahhahaah
     
  14. vincelee1981

    vincelee1981 5 Year | Silver

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    why nobody compare to 4agze kekekekekeke
     
  15. akuma

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    4AGZE?isn't dat a supercharged engine?not fair mah?hahahahaha
     
  16. BLaCkHoWLiNG

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    4AGZE with stock cam and stock crank pulley.. past 4500rpm = lose power... ;)
     
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    4AGZE should be compared with 4G61T. :listen:
     
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    back in d days when i was still with me supercharger.. the cars that i 'took':

    1. B6
    2. GSR
    3. V6 1.6 Mivec
    4. Mivec 1.6

    Those were the days la.. before Turbocharging it.. ehehhe
     
  19. B16B Corolla

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    Meaning all in stock ?
     
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    SR16VE version II?

    can u pls enlighten me on what chassis it sits and on what it starts to produce? i might learn something..

    because IMO, there's only two version of SR16VE. the normal SR16VE and the SR16VE N1. the latter was limited version.

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    can be easily stroke to 2.0.
    the only difference was either to maintain the 16ve pistons which is very high CR or use any other 20DE, 20DET or 20VE pistons to be on the safe side.
     

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