Best Twin Clutch

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wah...what orc did u get?
1st i'm looking for ORC P659D metal twin clutch, then after listen to few senior suggestion, I go back to P559D bcoz of driveability. At least P559D not completely button type like P659D.
 

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sweeeet! now we had the same clutch... do share your experience once u had it on your car k.. :D
 

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Lemon demon, sure~ btw, anyone do change the Rear oil main seal? I hvt plan to install the clutch yet until I collect the nismo cylinder and reinforced clutch line. Is better to change the seal once tranny box take out?

Btw, any place can find aftermarket clutch line? Like ORC, Nismo or APP? Gonna change the whole clutch system in 1 shot if can....
 
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Ok let me bring this tread alive.

So I have taken out my tranny to replace the bearing at first the firt place but I found that the clutch is almost at it's time. Been using stock clutch (I own a stock caf if ur wonder) but maybe I should get some twin plate or triple plate for power rise in the future.

So far HKS GD Pro is everyones choices bt I would like to know others as well like ogura, nismo and OS giken... In terms of.. Anything included price would be better lol..

Also if anyone is letting their clutch thats left maybe 70-90% please let ms know :)
 

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Ok let me bring this tread alive.

So I have taken out my tranny to replace the bearing at first the firt place but I found that the clutch is almost at it's time. Been using stock clutch (I own a stock caf if ur wonder) but maybe I should get some twin plate or triple plate for power rise in the future.

So far HKS GD Pro is everyones choices bt I would like to know others as well like ogura, nismo and OS giken... In terms of.. Anything included price would be better lol..

Also if anyone is letting their clutch thats left maybe 70-90% please let ms know :)
Stock car? Depends on how far you intend to go but I'd say invest in a twin plate. It will be suitable for both mild upgrades (400hp range) and a moderate upgrades (500-600hp). Don't bother with a triple plate especially if you've got a Getrag and want it to last. A lot of people use twin plates up to 700hp although they don't last as long obviously so if you intend on going down this route look at clutches where replacement parts are easily available for a price you can live with.

You can't expect us to unanimously agree on one particular clutch as we all have different clutches with different power and different driving styles. Not to mention some drive daily some don't. Loving or hating a clutch is slightly more than driving round the block - it's living with it day in day out. I think that we just end up getting used to what we have and after awhile you don't even give it a second thought.

Lastly, I'd advise against buying a used clutch if you can find the funds to buy a new one. Since they are wear and tear items you're definitely not going to find one with 90% left on it. Unless you buy a second hand twin and get new plates or something. Has the clutch been slipping or are you just looking at its condition? Since it's out worth getting done to save labor costs.
 

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Im just intended to built something around 600-650hp in the near future. I think i need something balance as i drive the car on the street and maybe some track day as well.

Im just looking at its condition and realise that its time for the clutch to go. Also no point to take the tranny out for the second time (its not easy anyway) so i have decided to go for a clutch change. My fund is limited however thats why i was thinking maybe i should get a used clutch :(
 

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Im just intended to built something around 600-650hp in the near future. I think i need something balance as i drive the car on the street and maybe some track day as well.

Im just looking at its condition and realise that its time for the clutch to go. Also no point to take the tranny out for the second time (its not easy anyway) so i have decided to go for a clutch change. My fund is limited however thats why i was thinking maybe i should get a used clutch :(
There's someone selling an ORC triple plate clutch here for RM2500. I've seen the plates with my eyes and they look almost new!

Try looking over at the market place section.

I've just sold my Nismo twin plate clutch for cheap :bawling: plates are quite worn but some experienced dudes who drove my car (without my permission! But I'm not too worried :biggrin:) say that it's a very nice clutch to drive - better than HKS or OS.
 

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Im just intended to built something around 600-650hp in the near future. I think i need something balance as i drive the car on the street and maybe some track day as well.

Im just looking at its condition and realise that its time for the clutch to go. Also no point to take the tranny out for the second time (its not easy anyway) so i have decided to go for a clutch change. My fund is limited however thats why i was thinking maybe i should get a used clutch :(
We're talking 650hp at the wheels? Assuming 20% drivetrain loss you're building an approximately 800hp engine in the near future. I've managed to get away with twin plate but mine was 70hp less and clutch lasts about 1.5 to 2 years. But I don't do track days and I don't think there are any twin plates which could cope with 800hp on the track.

I don't mean to pry but if your car is stock and your funds as you say limited, how much do you reckon you'd need to spend to get the power level you're after? Don't take this the wrong way, I'm just curious.

Btw, if you do go for 650atw then the engine won't be stock so during rebuild can always swap in an upgraded clutch.
 

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We're talking 650hp at the wheels? Assuming 20% drivetrain loss you're building an approximately 800hp engine in the near future. I've managed to get away with twin plate but mine was 70hp less and clutch lasts about 1.5 to 2 years. But I don't do track days and I don't think there are any twin plates which could cope with 800hp on the track.

I don't mean to pry but if your car is stock and your funds as you say limited, how much do you reckon you'd need to spend to get the power level you're after? Don't take this the wrong way, I'm just curious.

Btw, if you do go for 650atw then the engine won't be stock so during rebuild can always swap in an upgraded clutch.
Yeah I was just going to comment on this. Even 600hp at the engine is tough going and where everything really needs to be up to scratch. Otherwise it's not long before engine failure occurs.
It also involves quite a lot of money to be spent...easily above RM20k I reckon, if you start from a stock rb26.

I know this will be controversial, but the rb26 is not a 2jz larrriiiiiiiiii :burnout:
 

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Yeah I was just going to comment on this. Even 600hp at the engine is tough going and where everything really needs to be up to scratch. Otherwise it's not long before engine failure occurs.
It also involves quite a lot of money to be spent...easily above RM20k I reckon, if you start from a stock rb26.

I know this will be controversial, but the rb26 is not a 2jz larrriiiiiiiiii :burnout:
Bro, stock car. Even if you do forged 2.6 engine is how much? What about other mods? Cooling, fueling, stopping, turning, handling, ECU, etc? Not cheap and not worth taking shortcuts. At least 50k from stock standard minimum. If you want crate engines than nothing under 100k on mods alone.
 

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Hehe i know im a weirdo. Im going to put in a V-pro and tune the engine to its maximum output (with everything stock!!) but since i have extend to build the car in 5 years, so i hope to get a clutch that can cope that long period (kinda impossible...... but hopefully as long as possible)

I think 600hp on flywheel is good enough i guess? limited fund for the clutch is because i have to save some money for the engine :)

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There's someone selling an ORC triple plate clutch here for RM2500. I've seen the plates with my eyes and they look almost new!

Try looking over at the market place section.

I've just sold my Nismo twin plate clutch for cheap :bawling: plates are quite worn but some experienced dudes who drove my car (without my permission! But I'm not too worried :biggrin:) say that it's a very nice clutch to drive - better than HKS or OS.
triple plate for that price sounds like a good deal! but wont it be overkill my stock engine?
 

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Bro, stock car. Even if you do forged 2.6 engine is how much? What about other mods? Cooling, fueling, stopping, turning, handling, ECU, etc? Not cheap and not worth taking shortcuts. At least 50k from stock standard minimum. If you want crate engines than nothing under 100k on mods alone.
I reckon 50k minimum if you buy brandnew parts for an absolutely stock rb26.

You can do it a lot cheaper if:
1. There's already a lot of tuning parts in the car when you bought it.
2. Buy used but still in good working condition parts.
3. Sensible mods eg. Garrett instead of HKS, stock IC instead of big, stock radiator, induction piping etc.... :love::love::love:

Remember I've got for sale a basically complete rb26 with forged HKS pistons for a lot cheaper than 10k, a complete induction and turbo kit and downpipe for a lot cheaper than 10k, and also 700cc injectors. The complete lot for much less than 20k hehehehehe sorry for the promo :biggrin::biggrin:

BTW, my turbos has been checked by turbo specialist and are fine to use :love:

Hehe i know im a weirdo. Im going to put in a V-pro and tune the engine to its maximum output (with everything stock!!) but since i have extend to build the car in 5 years, so i hope to get a clutch that can cope that long period (kinda impossible...... but hopefully as long as possible)

I think 600hp on flywheel is good enough i guess? limited fund for the clutch is because i have to save some money for the engine :)


With everything stock you won't ever get near 600hp laa :nurse:

The engine just doesn't flow enough air - you will need bigger turbos.

Plus you need more fuel - stock injectors are only 444cc.
 

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Hehe i know im a weirdo. Im going to put in a V-pro and tune the engine to its maximum output (with everything stock!!) but since i have extend to build the car in 5 years, so i hope to get a clutch that can cope that long period (kinda impossible...... but hopefully as long as possible)

I think 600hp on flywheel is good enough i guess? limited fund for the clutch is because i have to save some money for the engine :)

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triple plate for that price sounds like a good deal! but wont it be overkill my stock engine?
Bro, gobiz said twin plate.

Anyways, V-Pro is wasted on a stock GTR. Not that there aren't any benefits but the you're limited by so many things - stock turbos, stock injectors, stock fuel pump, stock etc (you see where I'm going with this?) If you give us a budget, time frame we can probably guide you regarding your quest for 600hp flywheel. Although I can't promise that I'll be around in 5 years to see you through.

To stray off topic, I'm starting to feel that I've spent more than enough on cars to be honest and also the passion is gone. I hardly drive the car as it is. I see most of the guys here maybe once a year if that. My group of friends have long since left the scene so perhaps it's time for me to call it a day.

Gobiz reckons his R32GTR is worth 150k. :stupid: Add another say 25k and you can have my R34 GTR V-Spec II as is. Serious offer, screwing up his bloated valuation is an added bonus. What next? Well russellwestwood took up flying; so I might take up ballroom dancing :biggrin:

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I reckon 50k minimum if you buy brandnew parts for an absolutely stock rb26.

You can do it a lot cheaper if:
1. There's already a lot of tuning parts in the car when you bought it.
2. Buy used but still in good working condition parts.
3. Sensible mods eg. Garrett instead of HKS, stock IC instead of big, stock radiator, induction piping etc.... :love::love::love:

Remember I've got for sale a basically complete rb26 with forged HKS pistons for a lot cheaper than 10k, a complete induction and turbo kit and downpipe for a lot cheaper than 10k, and also 700cc injectors. The complete lot for much less than 20k hehehehehe sorry for the promo :biggrin::biggrin:

BTW, my turbos has been checked by turbo specialist and are fine to use :love:



With everything stock you won't ever get near 600hp laa :nurse:

The engine just doesn't flow enough air - you will need bigger turbos.

Plus you need more fuel - stock injectors are only 444cc.
LOL nice try slipping in your sales ad. :adore:
 

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LOL i know its kinda waste for V-pro for a stock shit. But my first thought was since im gonna use the ecu in the future anyway so why not plug it in first. I would like to see whats the different if i built the engine step by step. Yeah its kinda tricky but well.. own a GTR is not gonna be cheap to maintain anyway. :/

gobiz
mind to separate the ur turbo package? im after your front pipe.. maybe others :D
 

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