Rm8k Wira & Jazz GK5 ownership experience-A long way to go

parakey

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Walaowei u guys, fix wira damn gao. Have u guys ever thought of 'upgrading' it to a slightly newer car like Persona? Basically same under pinnings as Wiras/Gen2/Waja.
Now that you mention it, why arent there many epic Persona repair threads like this?
 

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Wow. Couldn't believe my eyes when I came across this thread. Read everything from start to finish, really happy that there is still active and passionate Wira owners around!! Learned a lot from the sifus in this thread as well, thanks. Gonna just share my story below, something like OP's journey as well.

I am currently in the process of repairing and restoring my family's 1996 Wira 1.5 (A) - carburetor, started around same time as OP as well, Oct 2019. It used the family car but had been neglected by my parents for many years since they bought a newer car. Many childhood memories of it. After some research and poking around on the Internet, I thought that it would be a very interesting and meaningful experience if I tried to restore the family's Wira. Probably can learn a lot about cars as well, even if I am sending it to mechanics to repair and not DIY. Before I started my journey, I actually had zero knowledge about cars, how to maintain it, etc.

For context, the car was still running and driven few times a week. Hasn't been serviced regularly for the past 10 years, for me it was a miracle that the car actually runs at all. However, the car was leaking engine oil and ATF every night. The engine oil leak would be worse IF car was driven on the highway the day before. Power steering pump was leaking as well, so the steering was getting tighter day by day. A/C was not cold. Suspension nonexistent.

Have been repairing the car bit by bit, starting with the power steering pump. Then the A/C system. Then all the belts + water pump + oil seal. It was a relief after that because now there was no ATF leaks. Next to be repaired was the head gasket, oil cover. No more engine oil stains in the porch now. Mechanic also told me he adjusted my valves. Engine was now quieter and sounded smoother.

Took a short break for my wallet's sake. Then continued with the front suspension system (absorber, lower arm, tie rod end, etc), + fresh front tyres. I couldnt believe the improvement when I drove it for the first time after the front suspension system was changed. Going over a speed bump felt so much better and the handling felt "tighter". Mechanic who sat beside me smiled when I told him all these as I was driving.

Then took another longer break, and changed the rear suspension system (absorber, lower arm, etc). Again, car felt so much better and I began to actually enjoy and trust the car more. This was before CNY.

Then the problems began. I started hearing a scraping sound ONLY when moving and my steering wheel is turned to the max. Normal turns are ok, but it is most obvious when I have to exit a parking spot or when doing u-turn. Was quite busy so I ignored it. Then MCO came. By June, I was passing by my regular mechanic (Mechanic 1) and to my horror it was closed down for good.

Went to another mechanic (Mechanic 2), and the foreman initially told me it was the daun pisang (wheelwell liner). Changed that but problem still persisted. Since it was 90 bucks ok la, I let it slip. Then he said it probably is the bearing issue. My brake discs were also warped already (this one ok la, cos I know they havent been changed for many years). Spent about 450 for new brake discs +pads. But to my shock the sound stil remained, even louder. Actually I was stupid also, should have went to another mechanic there and then. I did some research online and ok la, so far what I changed seemed in line with the usual problems. Maybe I was just unlucky that the mechanic was not experienced enuf to diagnose right away. Then this mechanic told me to try changing bearing (FOC if sound remains). Changed it, scraping sound was gone BUT only on one side. Anyway by this time I already spend like 550 , then plus another 140 on the bearing. He told me to change the left wheel bearing another time. My wallet was crying by this time and I was quite angry. Money is one thing, but the time spent. If expensive but can fix then it is still ok. But this

Had a strong suspicion that this mechanic was cheating but I still don't know what he cheated me. Not sure if anyone here watches Chris Wee's videos, but I went to one of the mechanics (Mechanic 3) that he goes to. Thinking was that if a car guy can trust this mechanic, then I should be safe-r going to the same mechanic also. Personally I dont really like not knowing what's wrong with my car so I braced myself for the cost. The mechanic took 1 hour in total to diagnose it. Took out tyres several times, went on several test drives to see where is the cause.

In the end it was the front lower arm that was actually pushing the front brake dust guard against my disc brake that was causing the scraping noise. The mechanic said that the OEM lower arm I used is still correct but the end part was jutting out too much. He hammered the lower arm to bend the metal a bit, then we reinstalled the wheels and went for test drive. Problem solved. Mechanic said it was first time he encountered this problem. Cost: RM45 for labour only. Felt so happy after that but also deflated cos I spent so much earlier. Told myself that this is the mechanic that I will go to next time, even if it is far for me.

Currently there's only a few more major problems to be fixed. Minor ones are just cosmetics.

1) Reverse light. Mechanic said it is a wiring issue to be fixed
2) Fuel gauge bouncing when I accelerate hard or when braking hard. It is either shows full or empty. So in a way I have to use untill less than half of the fuel left, then only the needle will point down towards empty. The bouncing is more like rapid flicking. Mechanic said it is fuel gauge problem, anyone faced this problem before?
3) Rusty front door + boot + roof. Bodywork shop say best to change to new one. Any thoughts?

4) Leaky boot when raining. I have removed the bootliner recently, it was so damp from all the rain. Not even sure if my boot has actually been dry at all over the years. Fortunately the rust is not to bad.

That's my journey so far. Really enjoying the car now and I think once I fixed the fuel gauge I will be more confident to take the car to a long trip, e.g. Melaka or Ipoh.

Edit: spelling
Welcome, I am also a newbie here. Still learning because this is the 1st time owning a old wira. Hahahaha

The car itself is nice. If you take good care thr driving experience is quite rewarding. Dun compare to those gsr swap wira la.hahahahahhaha
 

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Ya,Iagree with you
I know your gsr swap car very fast lah.
See sport car keep wanna challenge them. I saw 1 before go and challenge a golf gti then kena ta pau like hell. Hahahahahahahaha
Wah... u really have guts. Myvi The Taliban you might not even can tapao. Hehehehe...
 

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Wah... u really have guts. Myvi The Taliban you might not even can tapao. Hehehehe...
Not my car lah. 4g15 how to keep up? Kena tapao sahaja. Better tapao satay balik rumah makan.

My friend own a mk6 gti mod until 350+hp damn the acceleration is damn syok.

Myvi really god car. As a previous owner I dunno why all the car are going so slow. Or am I too fast?Hahahahahhahaaha
 

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Minor update:
Fixed the not working reverse lights today. It was a faulty gear selector, a small piece of part in the engine bay, near the car battery there. Mechanic said to use halfcut, so just use halfcut lor. New part is RM800. Halfcut, RM180 for parts and labour. Feels much safer when reversing now.

That's not too bad a price but did you ask how is he going to replace the roof? I'm surprised it's that cheap considering he has to drill out the spot welds on the roof, align the new roof and weld-on all the bits. I hope he's not the type to just cut off the A-pillar side and weld on the new roof to the A-pillar.
I didnt ask. But he say in the process of replacing the roof he will need to remove windscreen. Not sure if that gives a clue to how he will do it.

Walaowei u guys, fix wira damn gao. Have u guys ever thought of 'upgrading' it to a slightly newer car like Persona? Basically same under pinnings as Wiras/Gen2/Waja.
Nah, just gonna repair and drive it, then see where this journey of mine takes me. The dream would be to take it to beyond 30 years of ownership (currently 24), but all depends on cost and whether my interest will still be there or not. TS also started with RM8k budget.. but it seems like he's repaired the car waaay beyond market value already. As someone mentioned earlier, can't put a price on a passion.

Welcome, I am also a newbie here. Still learning because this is the 1st time owning a old wira. Hahahaha

The car itself is nice. If you take good care thr driving experience is quite rewarding. Dun compare to those gsr swap wira la.hahahahahhaha
hahaha, that one cannot compare la. I just wanna keep things as stock as possible. So engine swap, dashboard swap all not in the picture. I guess your thread has become the 'handbook' for Wira repairs now... so much knowledge contained in here.
 

lsm1991

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Minor update:
Fixed the not working reverse lights today. It was a faulty gear selector, a small piece of part in the engine bay, near the car battery there. Mechanic said to use halfcut, so just use halfcut lor. New part is RM800. Halfcut, RM180 for parts and labour. Feels much safer when reversing now.



I didnt ask. But he say in the process of replacing the roof he will need to remove windscreen. Not sure if that gives a clue to how he will do it.



Nah, just gonna repair and drive it, then see where this journey of mine takes me. The dream would be to take it to beyond 30 years of ownership (currently 24), but all depends on cost and whether my interest will still be there or not. TS also started with RM8k budget.. but it seems like he's repaired the car waaay beyond market value already. As someone mentioned earlier, can't put a price on a passion.



hahaha, that one cannot compare la. I just wanna keep things as stock as possible. So engine swap, dashboard swap all not in the picture. I guess your thread has become the 'handbook' for Wira repairs now... so much knowledge contained in here.

i thought the reverse lights were triggered by a switch by the shifter.....

also if they wana remove the windscreen, its sounds like they wana remove the entire roof... not a bad thing..
 

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