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2019 Proton Saga Launched! – RM33K onwards

There it is, the latest, most evolved Proton Saga since the Proton x Geely partnership is finally here. It is also Proton’s best selling product – contributed a staggering 2 million cars, literally half of the national car maker’s 4 million vehicles sold since inception.

As you’d expect from the recent changes made in Proton, this newly facelifted Saga has been improved all round, is more refined throughout and pack tempting features previously unattainable in cars of this segment. But one thing It’ll not get is the “Hi Proton” driving companion.

The Saga will still be powered by 95hp / 120nm 1.3 litre four-cylinder engine and comes with either the 5 speed manual or 4 speed auto

2019 Proton Saga notable features:

– New, large 7 inch floating android In car entertainment touch screen display, which is mounted centrally above the repositioned air con vents.
– 4 speed torque converter automatic transmission sourced from Hyundai replaces the CVT
– New, more dynamic front and rear bumper looks good, is a lot more pronounced and sporty.
– Unmissable, horizontal LED daytime running lights are featured in the front bumper
– New face has integrated “Infinite Weave” motif in the front grill.
– New 15″ wheels are fashioned in polished twin 5 spoke design, with 185/55 Silverstone Kruizer tyres
– New interior LED map lights is a lot larger than before and nestles within higher quality Tricot headlining.
– New remote key fob opens the bootlid, and does away with the key hole.
– Better brakes comprises bigger front disc brakes and also the rear drums
– Now has ABS as standard including EBD, brake assist and auto hill hold.

Colours:
Snow White, Armoured Silver, Jet Grey, Rosewood Maroon, Ruby Red

Prices:
Saga 1.3L Premium AT RM39,800
Saga 1.3L Standard AT RM35,800
Saga 1.3L Standard MT RM32,800
All prices are OTR without Insurance

 

<p>The seat material looks like a worn out jeans. Kind of interesting choice of material there.</p><p><br /></p><p>The rest is typical saga...basic and functional.</p><p><br /></p><p>What they shouldnt do is install a mirror at the driver side sun visor. It promotes lady driver to apply make up while driving which is annoying to others.</p><p><br /></p><p>The car has gone cheaper considering currency depreciation over the years. My 2008 M-line auto was 39,998. This one with better equipment at RM39,800?</p><p>I felt cheated...hahahah.</p><p><br /></p><p>Interested to know the fc figure when using the new gb. Existing cvt in the saga,persona,iriz returns good figure in town but the cvt ratio is not highway friendly.</p><p><br /></p><p>In my book this one have no problem becoming the staple food of Malaysian taking over from Axia and Bezza.</p>
<p>It&#039;s a bezza killer. Kudos to bring all the best in a budget national car</p><p>only sad thing</p><ol>
<li>no autofold side mirror</li>
<li>push star</li>
<li>Rear seat split fold</li>
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The seat material looks like a worn out jeans. Kind of interesting choice of material there.</p><p><br /></p><p>The rest is typical saga...basic and functional.</p><p><br /></p><p>What they shouldnt do is install a mirror at the driver side sun visor. It promotes lady driver to apply make up while driving which is annoying to others.</p><p><br /></p><p>The car has gone cheaper considering currency depreciation over the years. My 2008 M-line auto was 39,998. This one with better equipment at RM39,800?</p><p>I felt cheated...hahahah.</p><p><br /></p><p>Interested to know the fc figure when using the new gb. Existing cvt in the saga,persona,iriz returns good figure in town but the cvt ratio is not highway friendly.</p><p><br /></p><p>In my book this one have no problem becoming the staple food of Malaysian taking over from Axia and Bezza.
</p><p><br /></p><p>Staple food is good point. The manual one is just unbeatable value. Quite curious how this improved one drives actually, especially with the torque converter route</p>
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It&#039;s a bezza killer. Kudos to bring all the best in a budget national car</p><p>only sad thing</p><ol>
<li>no autofold side mirror</li>
<li>push star</li>
<li>Rear seat split fold</li>
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</p><p><br /></p><p>Push Start would&#039;ve been cherry on top</p>
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It&#039;s a bezza killer. Kudos to bring all the best in a budget national car</p><p>only sad thing</p><ol>
<li>no autofold side mirror</li>
<li>push star</li>
<li>Rear seat split fold</li>
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</p><p><br /></p><p>#1 This would&#039;ve been nice. But at that price if you include autofold mirrors it&#039;ll either be cheap and nasty motors or worse. Maintenance gonna shoot up because of these niceties. </p><p><br /></p><p>#2 I dunno what is the big deal with push start. I don&#039;t like it and it makes cars so easy to steal.</p><p><br /></p><p>#3 this seriously would&#039;ve boosted the value of the Saga even more. Pity it doesn&#039;t fold down though</p>
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</p><p>#2 I dunno what is the big deal with push start. I don&#039;t like it and it makes cars so easy to steal.
</p><p>I thought push start Protons are harder to steal. The immobiliser is built into the ecu</p>
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#1 This would&#039;ve been nice. But at that price if you include autofold mirrors it&#039;ll either be cheap and nasty motors or worse. Maintenance gonna shoot up because of these niceties.</p><p><br /></p><p>#2 I dunno what is the big deal with push start. I don&#039;t like it and it makes cars so easy to steal.</p><p><br /></p><p>#3 this seriously would&#039;ve boosted the value of the Saga even more. Pity it doesn&#039;t fold down though
</p><p>well maybe up price an additional 1K wont hurt as most car manufacturers are already going forward to use autofold and keyless now</p>
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I thought push start Protons are harder to steal. The immobiliser is built into the ecu
</p><p>Some videos show that it is easy to clone, No?</p>
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Some videos show that it is easy to clone, No?
</p><p>Show me please</p>
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Show me please
</p><p>Go youtube search got many videos......lol</p>
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Go youtube search got many videos......lol
</p><p>I cant find any.Perhaps I am using the wrong search terms. Which search term should I use on youtube?</p>
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I thought push start Protons are harder to steal. The immobiliser is built into the ecu
</p><p><br /></p><p>only avail for iriz premium &amp; persona premium....</p>
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I thought push start Protons are harder to steal. The immobilizer is built into the ecu
</p><p>They just need a scanner to get the frequency by scanning near where your key is (usually near the main door) and drive off your car within 2 minutes. These scanners are really easy to buy these days.</p>
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Show me please
</p><p></p><p><br /></p><p>This one was the most recent and happened in America. M&#039;sians rarely have CCTV outside the house that captures this kind of thing. Stolen within 5 minutes</p>
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They just need a scanner to get the frequency by scanning near where your key is (usually near the main door) and drive off your car within 2 minutes. These scanners are really easy to buy these days.
</p><p>yah! very scary......</p>
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They just need a scanner to get the frequency by scanning near where your key is (usually near the main door) and drive off your car within 2 minutes. These scanners are really easy to buy these days.
</p><p>Yes.</p><p>However this is only easy to do when there is no encryption at both end. Its simple to apply.</p><p><br /></p><p>A basic keyless system with no encryption is very easy to clone. Just imagine it like the rfid card we use for some apartment access or elite housing area access or factory. Most of these system does not have encryption thus u can copy the card whenever u need or lost or have ill intention as the system only recognize and need the badge id to work. Some manufacturer tied the programming to work with their software only but wont offer the best protection as sometimes other device such as rfid guard tour tool can still read the badge id. Again, all u need to do is replicate the badge id.</p><p><br /></p><p>The one equip with encryption is more secured. Its not foolproof but it is very hard to decrypt unless u have the decryption key. </p><p><br /></p><p>Now there is already tech that have decryption and 2 way comm for a very secured card access. I know card access and car alarm sound different but trust me their basic working is the same. How this one work is by sending an encrypted signal everytime we lock and unlock the thing and at the same time set a future encrypted code for the next transaction. This code is as a code for the alarm systen to only recognize signals from the original device. </p><p>This way, bad guys wont know the &#039;username&#039; and the &#039;password&#039; as its kept on revolving. To make things worst for them, its encrypted.</p><p><br /></p><p>Which keyless alarm uses this tech?</p><p>Dunno, and its best the thief dont know and the manufacturer dont declare.</p>
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Yes.</p><p>However this is only easy to do when there is no encryption at both end. Its simple to apply.</p><p><br /></p><p>A basic keyless system with no encryption is very easy to clone. Just imagine it like the rfid card we use for some apartment access or elite housing area access or factory. Most of these system does not have encryption thus u can copy the card whenever u need or lost or have ill intention as the system only recognize and need the badge id to work. Some manufacturer tied the programming to work with their software only but wont offer the best protection as sometimes other device such as rfid guard tour tool can still read the badge id. Again, all u need to do is replicate the badge id.</p><p><br /></p><p>The one equip with encryption is more secured. Its not foolproof but it is very hard to decrypt unless u have the decryption key.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now there is already tech that have decryption and 2 way comm for a very secured card access. I know card access and car alarm sound different but trust me their basic working is the same. How this one work is by sending an encrypted signal everytime we lock and unlock the thing and at the same time set a future encrypted code for the next transaction. This code is as a code for the alarm systen to only recognize signals from the original device.</p><p>This way, bad guys wont know the &#039;username&#039; and the &#039;password&#039; as its kept on revolving. To make things worst for them, its encrypted.</p><p><br /></p><p>Which keyless alarm uses this tech?</p><p>Dunno, and its best the thief dont know and the manufacturer dont declare.
</p><p><br /></p><p>Another thing is if it has all this security then I&#039;m pretty sure the price isn&#039;t going to be this cheap anymore.</p>
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Another thing is if it has all this security then I&#039;m pretty sure the price isn&#039;t going to be this cheap anymore.
</p><p>Only slightly more expensive.</p><p>Just need to pay a geek to design the encryption key.</p>
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They just need a scanner to get the frequency by scanning near where your key is (usually near the main door) and drive off your car within 2 minutes. These scanners are really easy to buy these days.
</p><p>Proton still needs the key to be inserted when starting. I own a Preve CFE. So far, I have only heard of those lesser Preves without Start/Stop immobiliser that gets stolen.</p>
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Proton still needs the key to be inserted when starting. I own a Preve CFE. So far, I have only heard of those lesser Preves without Start/Stop immobiliser that gets stolen.
</p><p>For Preve &amp; Suprima yes.</p><p>Iriz and Persona for full spec is 100% keyless.</p><p><br /></p><p>I believe for Preve and Suprima, they are still using the small chip at base of the key hence u need to put the key into the slot as the chip in the key is passive and needs to be very close to the reader.</p>
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</p><p>Iriz and Persona for full spec is 100% keyless.
Full keyless makes them more vulnerable. Then again, anyone without those scanning equipment will be more likely to steal cruiseliners.</p>
<p>You can put lipstick on a pig... but at the end of the day it is still a pig.</p>
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You can put lipstick on a pig... but at the end of the day it is still a pig.
</p><p>Such harsh words on a budget car</p>
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Such harsh words on a budget car
</p><p><br /></p><p>Is it really?</p><p><br /></p><p>1.The current generation Saga launched in 2016, and this facelift is 3 years later, 2019, BUT, that&#039;s utter bullshit. The current generation platform IS the 2008 Saga, which, was itself based on the extended wheelbase version of the 2005 Savvy. That makes this current generation&#039;s platform effectively 14 years old.</p><p><br /></p><p>2.The previous Saga platform was used continuously for 23 years. </p><p><br /></p><p>I think people are forgetful. And I am sick and tired of Proton ripping off Malaysians with obsolete and sub par products. Who are stuck with these products? The rakyat. The masses. </p><p><br /></p><p>Why is traction control not compulsory ? Because Proton exists, and then Perodua. </p><p><a href="https://paultan.org/2016/11/29/stability-control-mandatory-in-malaysia-by-june-2018/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://paultan.org/2016/11/29/stability-control-mandatory-in-malaysia-by-june-2018/" rel="nofollow">https://paultan.org/2016/11/29/stability-control-mandatory-in-malaysia-by-june-2018/</a></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Do you see it being compulsory? LOL, NO. </p><p><br /></p><p>Abolish the protection for Proton &amp; Perodua, let other makers compete on a fair market, and who ultimately benefits? The rakyat. Because other makers will then be able to offer better products at Proton &amp; Perodua price points.</p><p><br /></p><p>So yes, it&#039;s a pig. It&#039;s not a budget car, it&#039;s expensive. It appears &quot;cheap&quot; in Malaysia because other cars are expensive because of tax and duties imposed by the government to protect this &quot;budget&quot; car. </p><p><br /></p><p>In actual fact, this is a piece of shit of car for the price. I guarantee you that without the tax and duties, other makers can offer better cars with better safety at this price or less.</p>
<p>Being an Iriz owner for almost 4 years, I am in one accord with ixeo with regards to the conundrum of national cars. One especially that pisses me off it is the push button adaptor wiper (Conti style wiper type) in a national car, what!! Besides, after a decade or more, what has campro engine become today? </p><p><br /></p><p>National cars are supposed to be affordable as a whole to the general masses of Malaysia.</p>
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Being an Iriz owner for almost 4 years, I am in one accord with ixeo with regards to the conundrum of national cars. One especially that pisses me off it is the push button adaptor wiper (Conti style wiper type) in a national car, what!! Besides, after a decade or more, what has campro engine become today?</p><p><br /></p><p>National cars are supposed to be affordable as a whole to the general masses of Malaysia.
</p><p>Nowadays they are still the only one cheapest, just because the others are more expensive.......lol</p>
<p>So, i went to see the car yesterday but too bad there is no test drive unit.</p><p><br /></p><p>Overall i can see they either spank the current vendor to supply better parts or appoint new vendor from China based from the different quality of material and chinese wordings on some plastic wrapping. </p><p>Their paint is almost certain comes from different supplier as the clear coat shine is very2 different in shade.</p><p><br /></p><p>I also notice that the B pillar is thicker compared to my BLM or is it since FL era...</p><p><br /></p><p>What i dont like;</p><p>1.space saver spare tire when the compartment is still the same.</p><p>2.lousy designed door lock above the opening handle from the inside. Imagine it as a super cheap version of the waja lock.</p><p>3.rear seat &#039;neck&#039; rest. Useless just like tge one in the new Persona.</p><p><br /></p><p>What i like;</p><p>1.body hugging front seats</p><p>2.fold down rear seats</p><p>3.better built quality</p><p>4.bigger front brakes...BLM and FL braking is kinda bad esp with OE pads aka dust pads.</p>
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So, i went to see the car yesterday but too bad there is no test drive unit.</p><p><br /></p><p>Overall i can see they either spank the current vendor to supply better parts or appoint new vendor from China based from the different quality of material and chinese wordings on some plastic wrapping.</p><p>Their paint is almost certain comes from different supplier as the clear coat shine is very2 different in shade.</p><p><br /></p><p>I also notice that the B pillar is thicker compared to my BLM or is it since FL era...</p><p><br /></p><p>What i dont like;</p><p>1.space saver spare tire when the compartment is still the same.</p><p>2.lousy designed door lock above the opening handle from the inside. Imagine it as a super cheap version of the waja lock.</p><p>3.rear seat &#039;neck&#039; rest. Useless just like tge one in the new Persona.</p><p><br /></p><p>What i like;</p><p>1.body hugging front seats</p><p>2.fold down rear seats</p><p>3.better built quality</p><p>4.bigger front brakes...BLM and FL braking is kinda bad esp with OE pads aka dust pads.
</p><p>Nice... The new Saga is definitely a looker. Quality wise most likely have improved as well</p>
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Is it really?</p><p><br /></p><p>1.The current generation Saga launched in 2016, and this facelift is 3 years later, 2019, BUT, that&#039;s utter bullshit. The current generation platform IS the 2008 Saga, which, was itself based on the extended wheelbase version of the 2005 Savvy. That makes this current generation&#039;s platform effectively 14 years old.</p><p><br /></p><p>2.The previous Saga platform was used continuously for 23 years.</p><p><br /></p><p>I think people are forgetful. And I am sick and tired of Proton ripping off Malaysians with obsolete and sub par products. Who are stuck with these products? The rakyat. The masses.</p><p><br /></p><p>Why is traction control not compulsory ? Because Proton exists, and then Perodua.</p><p><a href="https://paultan.org/2016/11/29/stability-control-mandatory-in-malaysia-by-june-2018/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://paultan.org/2016/11/29/stability-control-mandatory-in-malaysia-by-june-2018/" rel="nofollow">https://paultan.org/2016/11/29/stability-control-mandatory-in-malaysia-by-june-2018/</a></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Do you see it being compulsory? LOL, NO.</p><p><br /></p><p>Abolish the protection for Proton &amp; Perodua, let other makers compete on a fair market, and who ultimately benefits? The rakyat. Because other makers will then be able to offer better products at Proton &amp; Perodua price points.</p><p><br /></p><p>So yes, it&#039;s a pig. It&#039;s not a budget car, it&#039;s expensive. It appears &quot;cheap&quot; in Malaysia because other cars are expensive because of tax and duties imposed by the government to protect this &quot;budget&quot; car.</p><p><br /></p><p>In actual fact, this is a piece of shit of car for the price. I guarantee you that without the tax and duties, other makers can offer better cars with better safety at this price or less.
</p><p><br /></p><p>It&#039;s harsh but true to the bone, i agree to Ixeo, its not a budget car as the government is jacking up duty on foreign car brands to make P1/P2 looks cheap and affordable. Even the empty Toyota Vios can be appeared to be twice expensive due to the outrageous taxes. The recent X70 is only good thing that came out from Proton for a very long time, but the prices are questionable.</p><p><br /></p><p>It seems to me that because of Proton and Perodua, the masses are not allowed to have standard and deserved safety and comfort.</p><p><br /></p><p>I stopped my GF from buying P1 &amp; P2 for her mum because i know non of these 2 can rival the safety of her old Atoz. That thing can crash a 2005 Myvi front part to a mess while the Atoz suffers not so serious damage.</p><p><br /></p><p>Thanks,</p><p>Ken</p>
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It&#039;s harsh but true to the bone, i agree to Ixeo, its not a budget car as the government is jacking up duty on foreign car brands to make P1/P2 looks cheap and affordable. Even the empty Toyota Vios can be appeared to be twice expensive due to the outrageous taxes. The recent X70 is only good thing that came out from Proton for a very long time, but the prices are questionable.</p><p><br /></p><p>It seems to me that because of Proton and Perodua, the masses are not allowed to have standard and deserved safety and comfort.</p><p><br /></p><p>I stopped my GF from buying P1 &amp; P2 for her mum because i know non of these 2 can rival the safety of her old Atoz. That thing can crash a 2005 Myvi front part to a mess while the Atoz suffers not so serious damage.</p><p><br /></p><p>Thanks,</p><p>Ken
</p><p>Eh, modern P1 safety i a hell lot better than what it used to be. Its not like boron steel tough but their HPF thingny does it job when things go bad on the road. My friend brother survive a frontal offset crash with a Hilux (drunk driver )at abt 60-70kmh with not cut or bruises....well there is bruises but at the expected area where the seatbelt held the driver in place.</p><p><br /></p><p>The Atos is from older generation thus it cant hold a candle against modern P1 and the latest Myvi. What i notice on most P2 is there are not enough metal support across the frontal area. Maybe their engineer will say there is no need for it as it serve no purpose as crash structure but for end user it adds up to the repair bill as everything behind the front bumper will be destroyed in a minor crash.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now go bring your gf to shop for replacement for the Atos.</p>
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Eh, modern P1 safety i a hell lot better than what it used to be. Its not like boron steel tough but their HPF thingny does it job when things go bad on the road. My friend brother survive a frontal offset crash with a Hilux (drunk driver )at abt 60-70kmh with not cut or bruises....well there is bruises but at the expected area where the seatbelt held the driver in place.</p><p><br /></p><p>The Atos is from older generation thus it cant hold a candle against modern P1 and the latest Myvi. What i notice on most P2 is there are not enough metal support across the frontal area. Maybe their engineer will say there is no need for it as it serve no purpose as crash structure but for end user it adds up to the repair bill as everything behind the front bumper will be destroyed in a minor crash.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now go bring your gf to shop for replacement for the Atos.
</p><p><br /></p><p>Sounds good but from my observation of Saga (FL1 &amp; FL2) crash cases, those cars were totaled, not to say i have bias against the car but what i saw is hard to pass. There are too many probabilities that lead to a crash so i really glad your friend&#039;s brother able to walk away without any real injuries. If she is going to spend on a new car, it has to be equipped with VSC or Traction control.</p><p><br /></p><p>VSC and Traction Control are also other import features that should be made standard to all cars, these CAN effectively reduce likelihood of loosing control and crash into oncoming traffic or light poles. Which is something i really don&#039;t like about our local MOT, we have to pay a fxxking premium prices for some safety techs that should be standard in the first place. Let&#039;s take it an example, ABS is quite standard in all modern cars.</p><p><br /></p><p>Thanks,</p><p>Ken</p>
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Sounds good but from my observation of Saga (FL1 &amp; FL2) crash cases, those cars were totaled, not to say i have bias against the car but what i saw is hard to pass. There are too many probabilities that lead to a crash so i really glad your friend&#039;s brother able to walk away without any real injuries. If she is going to spend on a new car, it has to be equipped with VSC or Traction control.</p><p><br /></p><p>VSC and Traction Control are also other import features that should be made standard to all cars, these CAN effectively reduce likelihood of loosing control and crash into oncoming traffic or light poles. Which is something i really don&#039;t like about our local MOT, we have to pay a fxxking premium prices for some safety techs that should be standard in the first place. Let&#039;s take it an example, ABS is quite standard in all modern cars.</p><p><br /></p><p>Thanks,</p><p>Ken
</p><p>Saga is not included in the &#039;safe&#039; list. The &#039;safe&#039; cars are Iriz, Preve, Suprima, latest Persona.</p>
<p>Other markets already have AEB as standard feature. And in Malaysia we still don&#039;t have traction control. Syukurlah Malaysia masih aman. Transport minister don&#039;t know doing what everyday. Tinting very important is it? Can tint darker so his VIP friends happy? Idiot.</p><p><br /></p><p>Different government, still same stupidity.</p>
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Saga is not included in the &#039;safe&#039; list. The &#039;safe&#039; cars are Iriz, Preve, Suprima, latest Persona.
</p><p><br /></p><p>That&#039;s what i said, it seems like &quot;Safety&quot; is for those who can pay and afford. Lesser earning can kiss their safety goodbye for all they care. Saga is not classified under &quot;safe&quot; list then i guess its only rational to avoid this model and go for Iriz, Preve and Persona, but again, these so called &quot;safe&quot; list comes with a price tag, which the masses would rather go with foreign brand like Honda and Toyota. which can satisfy very much of the masses&#039; needs, like space, safety, entertainment and also the brand factor.</p>
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That&#039;s what i said, it seems like &quot;Safety&quot; is for those who can pay and afford. Lesser earning can kiss their safety goodbye for all they care. Saga is not classified under &quot;safe&quot; list then i guess its only rational to avoid this model and go for Iriz, Preve and Persona, but again, these so called &quot;safe&quot; list comes with a price tag, which the masses would rather go with foreign brand like Honda and Toyota. which can satisfy very much of the masses&#039; needs, like space, safety, entertainment and also the brand factor.
</p><p>If i recall correctly the latest saga chassis is the same one they used since BLM so not much can be done. Only way is to come out with new platform which P1 cant afford under previous &#039;mis&#039;management.</p>
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If i recall correctly the latest saga chassis is the same one they used since BLM so not much can be done. Only way is to come out with new platform which P1 cant afford under previous &#039;mis&#039;management.
</p><p>which would be in 2021 or end of 2020. new saga model</p>
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which would be in 2021 or end of 2020. new saga model
</p><p>I just hope with whatever Geely model they copy, the chassis retain the P1 touch for ride and handling.</p>
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If i recall correctly the latest saga chassis is the same one they used since BLM so not much can be done. Only way is to come out with new platform which P1 cant afford under previous &#039;mis&#039;management.
</p><p><br /></p><p>Exactly like what ixeo described, put a lipstick on pig is still a pig. Put a NEW Saga in ads without a refresh model is still the 2008 version Saga. I hope they don&#039;t plan to run this model for another 10 years. It&#039;s clocked 11 years already since the last true refreshed Saga has been introduced.</p><p><br /></p><p>Even the Vios had been refreshed totally ...</p>
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I just hope with whatever Geely model they copy, the chassis retain the P1 touch for ride and handling.
</p><p>Need to add Lotus......lol</p>
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Exactly like what ixeo described, put a lipstick on pig is still a pig. Put a NEW Saga in ads without a refresh model is still the 2008 version Saga. I hope they don&#039;t plan to run this model for another 10 years. It&#039;s clocked 11 years already since the last true refreshed Saga has been introduced.</p><p><br /></p><p>Even the Vios had been refreshed totally ...
</p><p>With Geely steering the company now they have to come out with new platform or adopt Geely platform and engine to comply with higher std of foreign market. Not to mention better engine. Local market alone just wont cut it to make healthy profit.</p><p><br /></p><p>I work in local company which supply parts for major automotive brand. When i asked people from sales why we dont supply to P1 or P2 the answer i receive;</p><p>1.Previously P1 management is sombong.</p><p>2.P1 and P2 volume is peanut compared to order from current make we supply. Having to cater for them could potentially yield unnecessary cost.</p><p><br /></p><p>Nonetheless things are changing for P1 and hopefully we can supply to them too. At least i can proud and claim &#039;I put lights in your P1&#039;.</p>
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With Geely steering the company now they have to come out with new platform or adopt Geely platform and engine to comply with higher std of foreign market. Not to mention better engine. Local market alone just wont cut it to make healthy profit.</p><p><br /></p><p>I work in local company which supply parts for major automotive brand. When i asked people from sales why we dont supply to P1 or P2 the answer i receive;</p><p>1.Previously P1 management is sombong.</p><p>2.P1 and P2 volume is peanut compared to order from current make we supply. Having to cater for them could potentially yield unnecessary cost.</p><p><br /></p><p>Nonetheless things are changing for P1 and hopefully we can supply to them too. At least i can proud and claim &#039;I put lights in your P1&#039;.
</p><p>Dominant?</p>
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Dominant?
</p><p>I can neither confirm or deny that.</p>
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With Geely steering the company now they have to come out with new platform or adopt Geely platform and engine to comply with higher std of foreign market. Not to mention better engine. Local market alone just wont cut it to make healthy profit.</p><p><br /></p><p>I work in local company which supply parts for major automotive brand. When i asked people from sales why we dont supply to P1 or P2 the answer i receive;</p><p>1.Previously P1 management is sombong.</p><p>2.P1 and P2 volume is peanut compared to order from current make we supply. Having to cater for them could potentially yield unnecessary cost.</p><p><br /></p><p>Nonetheless things are changing for P1 and hopefully we can supply to them too. At least i can proud and claim &#039;I put lights in your P1&#039;.
</p><p>Supply P1 need to know who is inside......lol</p>
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I can neither confirm or deny that.
</p><p>was just seeing the MD post on his new venture of LED. so far i know the MD is having hard time penetrating to supply local and germans car lighting.</p>
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With Geely steering the company now they have to come out with new platform or adopt Geely platform and engine to comply with higher std of foreign market. Not to mention better engine. Local market alone just wont cut it to make healthy profit.</p><p><br /></p><p>I work in local company which supply parts for major automotive brand. When i asked people from sales why we dont supply to P1 or P2 the answer i receive;</p><p>1.Previously P1 management is sombong.</p><p>2.P1 and P2 volume is peanut compared to order from current make we supply. Having to cater for them could potentially yield unnecessary cost.</p><p><br /></p><p>Nonetheless things are changing for P1 and hopefully we can supply to them too. At least i can proud and claim &#039;I put lights in your P1&#039;.
</p><p><br /></p><p>LOL I liked your last one, &quot;put lights to your P1&quot;. Geely have yet to show us their business direction to the locals, when P1 keeps boasting they want to make affordable cars with class leading standards, but came out with something like X70, which in my context, not entirely affordable, but does come with class leading features. Suppliers of parts play a very huge role, as that will determine the final perception of the quality, cut away useless cronies that supply 3rd class parts with 1st class prices, that would effectively increase the quality perception and also lowering down costs (if assuming cronies are charging skyhigh prices on their parts).</p><p><br /></p><p>And also, they may need better designing concepts to their cars, to make it more appealing to all race, religions and species without sacrificing the identity. IMO, the X70 looks 100% like Geely Boyue and both models are super appealing to look at ! Hope they find some other platform to adopt to the future SAGA.</p><p><br /></p><p>Thanks,</p><p>Ken</p>
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